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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: ODBC
In-Reply-To:  <199604291653.QAA27281@pipe2.t2.usa.pipeline.com> (message from
              Chris Cline on Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:53:29 GMT)

>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Cline <slonline@usa.pipeline.com> writes:

    Chris> I'm trying to access several different data sources through
    Chris> ODBC (Btrieve, Oracle, etc.)  The only way I can get the
    Chris> GNNServer to recognize them is by creating a System DSN
    Chris> through 32-Bit ODBC.  Database Services won't show tables
    Chris> from data sources that are 16-bit ODBC or regular 32-bit
    Chris> ODBC.  Does GNNServer only recognize 32-bit System DSN's?

If you run the service as a particular user and create the data
sources as that user, you should be able to access them.

doug

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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Access to hServer outside of Init in C-API?
In-Reply-To:  <MAPI.Id.0016.00616e6b202020204543343830303541@MAPI.to.RFC822>
              (Tank@PG.NET)

>>>>> "Sean" == SPM  <Tank> writes:

    Sean> Greets All- I am curious as to whether there is any way to
    Sean> gain access to the hServer variable outside of the Init
    Sean> function... By this I mean:

    Sean> In the Init function, GNN-Server passes a char *hServer to
    Sean> the function, which is used in some calls
    Sean> (ie. Ns_RegisterRequest).  The init then exits, after
    Sean> registering the function(s) for the URL(s).

    Sean> At the time the specified function is called, is there a way
    Sean> to gain access to the same "hServer" variable?

    Sean> There are some functions (specifically Ns_DbPoolAllowable)
    Sean> that require this variable, and I am curious as to whether I
    Sean> can delay calling this function until I am inside my
    Sean> routines.

Just call Ns_ConnServer(conn); it will return a character pointer to
the name of the virtual server you are using.

doug

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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
In-Reply-To:  <31850EB9@langate.utsa.edu> (GJEFFERY@pclan.utsa.edu)

>>>>> "George" == George P Jeffery <GJEFFERY@pclan.utsa.edu> writes:

    George> Okay, I am lost and the documentation seems to assume (or
    George> I just cannot find it) something that is not there. I have
    George> installed GNNServer 2.01 and installed Illustra.

    George> A.  I am following the instruction under configuring the
    George> database module. Refer to the page below.

    George> http://www.tools.gnn.com/server/docs/2.01/con-ch2.htm#29275

    George> Everything appears fine up to point 18.  I have no options
    George> under the Database Services Administration. Instead I get
    George> "No databases are available". I do not get a "Add New
    George> Table" Option.

Check your server log; it's at log\server.log in your installation
directory, and it will probably tell you what went wrong when the
server came up.

    George> B. I tried creating a new database using the "Illustra
    George> Query Tool-32".  Intresting thing happens; If you try to
    George> create a database it immediately wants you to be connected
    George> to a database. Hmmm. No, I haven't to created it.

Luckily Illustra comes with a database called "template1" that you can
connect to.  You'll probably need to use "nsql" instead of IQT to
connect since we do not distribute a license to run IQT.

Hope this helps!

doug

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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: ns_formvalueput on SELECT
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b04ada6d9d20dab@[198.69.37.167]> (petej@clickvision.com)

>>>>> "Pete" == Peter M Jansson <petej@clickvision.com> writes:

    Pete> Is there a way to get ns_formvalueput to have both a value
    Pete> and associated text when putting a value into a <SELECT...>
    Pete> list?  I'm trying to end up with a list that looks like:

    Pete>    <SELECT NAME=thing1>
    Pete>    <OPTION VALUE=1>First choice
    Pete>    <OPTION VALUE=2>Second choice
    Pete>    </SELECT>

    Pete> If I just use "ns_formvalueput $form thing1 "First choice"
    Pete> form", form ends up containing "<OPTION>First choice", and
    Pete> ns_formvalueput isn't documented to take additional args.

Right now, ns_formvalueput doesn't pay attention to the VALUE=xxx
inside of OPTION tags.  It probably should.  It sounds like you might
be able to use this function to build your select list:


# ns_htmlselect ?-multi? ?-sort? ?-labels labels? key values ?selecteddata?

proc ns_htmlselect args {

    set multi 0
    set sort 0
    set labels {}
    while {[string index [lindex $args 0] 0] == "-"} {
        if {[lindex $args 0] == "-multi"} {
            set multi 1
            set args [lreplace $args 0 0]
        }
        if {[lindex $args 0] == "-sort"} {
            set sort 1
            set args [lreplace $args 0 0]
        }
        if {[lindex $args 0] == "-labels"} {
            set labels [lindex $args 1]
            set args [lreplace $args 0 1]
        }
    }

    set key [lindex $args 0]
    set values [lindex $args 1]

    if {[llength $args] == 3} {
        set selecteddata [lindex $args 2]
    } else {
        set selecteddata ""
    }

    set select "<SELECT NAME=$key"
    if {$multi == 1} {
        set size [llength $values]
        if {$size > 5} {
            set size 5
        }
        append select " MULTIPLE SIZE=$size"
    } else {
        if {[llength $values] > 25} {
            append select " SIZE=5"
        }
    }
    append select ">\n"
    set len [llength $values]
    set lvpairs {}
    for {set i 0} {$i < $len} {incr i} {
        if {$labels == {}} {
            set label [lindex $values $i]
        } else {
            set label [lindex $labels $i]
        }
        regsub -all "\"" $label "" label
        lappend lvpairs [list  $label [lindex $values $i]]
    }
    if $sort {
        set lvpairs [lsort -command _ns_paircmp -increasing $lvpairs]
    }
    foreach lvpair $lvpairs {
        append select "<OPTION VALUE=\"[lindex $lvpair 1]\""
        if {[lsearch $selecteddata [lindex $lvpair 1]] >= 0} {
            append select " SELECTED"
        }
        append select ">[lindex $lvpair 0]\n"
    }
    append select "</SELECT>"

    return $select
}
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: ns_conn authuser connId function
Comments: cc: angela@navisoft.com
In-Reply-To:  <199604261810.OAA18080@comet.connix.com> (message from Scott
              Munro on Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:10:55 -0400)

>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Munro <smunro@connix.com> writes:

    Scott> Hi folks, I have a question concerning the Tcl API
    Scott> function,

    Scott>    ns_conn authdata connId

    Scott> defined in the Naviserver 2.0 Tcl Developer's guide as a
    Scott> way to return uuencoded authorization data. When I invoke
    Scott> this in a Tcl script, I get a server error, with the
    Scott> following message appearing in the server.log file:

You've uncovered a bug in the documentation!  This function is not
supported, but you can get the data you're looking for from the
headers passed in.  Use instead:

        [ns_set iget [ns_conn headers $conn] Authorization]

doug

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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: GNNserver and Illustra for SunOS4
In-Reply-To:  <1.5.4.32.19960426232240.006685d0@mutul.dwt.co.kr> (message from
              KiEun Park on Sat, 27 Apr 1996 08:22:40 +0900)

> When I run nsql, core dumped - Segmentation violation error. With
> dbx, I found breaking point is at pthread library.

The following URL should help:

        http://www.tools.gnn.com/server/platforms.html#linux

> And, when I run
> "msql template1", license daemon reports

> XVL011:license manager: SYSTEM_ERROR <Bad file number> SERVER
> <ariel> FEATURE <miserver>
> MI_LIB_USAGE: Can't login to server
> can't login to template1 on server default, host ariel
> Not currently connected to a database

We are not currently distributing a license to run msql.

doug

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From:         "R. Craig Porter" <tripower@sonline.com>
Subject:      Unresolved Externals when compling w/ Borland C++

Hello all,

Anyone have experience compiling under Borland C++ 4.5 or greater.  I
use the C examples from the documentation to create a DLL and get
unresolved externals for every call to the API.  I've done everything I
can think of to link in the NSD.LIB library, but it doesn't seem to be
happening.

Any thoughts before I call Borland?

THANKS!

R. Craig Porter
TriPower & Associates - Atlanta
770/587-5672
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From:         "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
Subject:      Error in Tcl ns_sendmail function?

Hi All-

I've been having some problems in some code of mine (C API on WindowsNT) =

that uses Ns_TclEval to call the ns_sendmail funtion....

When this function is called, GNN connects to the mail server, begins sen=
ding the
message, then hangs.  I check the error string returned by Ns_TclEval and=
 see:

error reading "file14": Invalid argument

I have checked the Tcl script I am sending, and it appears fine....

Just for kicks, I tried to use the "ad hoc evaluation" to test the ns_sen=
dmail script...
to my surprise, the same thing happens...  Does anyone know what is causi=
ng this
to hang??  I'm sure that this script has been used in many cases, so why =
doesn't it
work here?

P.S. The way I called the script in "ad hoc" is:

ns_sendmail tank@pg.net foo@bar.cli "This is the Subject" "This is a test=

message"

(Note, there is no newline in the script between "test" and "message"

Tnx

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Date:         Fri, 3 May 1996 15:56:32 -0700
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From:         ACS <hugo@apcom.com>
Subject:      Directory listing response

Under the NS/Setup/VServer/xyz in expert mode you can configure the url's for
NotFoundResponse, UnauthorisedResponse and ForbiddenResponse.
How can I set up a header url so that a directory listing response returns it
(as the header) instead of the GNNserver logo.

Hugo
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Comments:     Authenticated sender is <harry@mail.advisors.se>
From:         Harry Zachrisson <harry@advisors.se>
Subject:      Re: Remote manual stop/start via telnet on NT

> My GNNServer is remotely located on a machine that is colocating
> at an isp quite a ways away. I have a telnet daemon installed and
> would like to stop and start the server via telnet, remotely,
> in order for the nsadmin changes to take place. I get
> access to the full c:\GNN directory and c:\WINNT95 and any other
> directories in File Manager via telnet. How do I stop and
> start the server via telnet?
>
> Kireau Knedirck
>

If server is on NT and your client is a Win 95, try pcANYWHERE32.
I am using it to remote admin our NT server and it works fine.
It gives you complete control of the server, great for remote tuning and
software install.

Harry.


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From:         Scott Munro <smunro@connix.com>
Subject:      sql statement help

hugo,

You Wrote:

> I've been looking through my sql book and I can't seem to find how to do the
> following (or at least it didn't look ovious to me):

> I have a table of addresses and one of the fields is called States and has the
> 2 character abbrev. of the state that address is in.
> I want to do a search that just returns each unique state name once, so if
> there
> are 50 CA and 11 NY and 133 CO and 22 NV, I just want to see:
> CA NY CO NV returned, nothing else.

> Can anyone help with this sql statement?

I've done something with our system that seems to be very similar to what
you want. In our case, the table contains a number of bulk offers for sale,
which are summarized by state. Each row in the bulk offer table contains a
2-letter state identifier. To summarize the number of bulk offers available
by state, I execute the following sql command from within my Tcl script:

  select PB_State, count(PB_State) from PIE_Bulk group by PB_State order by
PB_State asc;

where PB_State is the column in table PIE_Bulk containing the state 2-letter
code. Executed from the nsql prompt, this statement would produce:

-----------------------------
|PB_State     |count        |
-----------------------------
|FL           |2            |
|IL           |3            |
|MI           |2            |
|NJ           |5            |
|PA           |2            |
|UT           |1            |
-----------------------------

summarizing the number of offers in each state. In practice, this statement
is executed as a ns_db select call and the output is returned as a ns_set.
Hope this helps.

Scott Munro
Aardvark Interactive, LLC
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From:         "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
Subject:      Calling TCL functions in C modules?

Greets All-

What is the proper way to call Tcl functions while in a C module?  I trie=
d to find this
in the documentation, but was not able to....

I am trying to send mail from within a module... I suppose I could have =
it post to a
.elm form and use the sample Tcl mailer, but it seems there should be a =
way to
call Tcl functions directly from C...

Tnx

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From:         Aleotta@aol.com
Subject:      Re: rewriting the permission module

In a message dated 96-04-29 15:23:11 EDT, you write:

>Ed, you might find that going to the database EVERY TIME you service an HTTP
request will be too slow.

Given Illustra's extremely poor performance due to the fork/exec for
every user connection, I agree.  However, I propose that a gateway
process could be placed in front of Illustra that would maintain
live connections.  The application code would have to connect
to the gateway using TCP/IP and some new database API.

It is a lot of work, but I have built things that this before while I was
a Sybase Consulting working out of the New York City Office.

Until Informix can improve Illustra, I am afraid we a struck with a
rather bad problem.  I too, would like to check Illustra on every user
request to the httpd server.  I am a great fan of on-the-fly HTML,
however, I am seeing really aweful performance on my slower
sparc-2 class server.

When I move up to a Sparc 20, I will let you know how long the
fork/exec is taking...

Products live Sybase are multi-threaded and hence a user
connection is just a thread creation, which is very very fast.
Illustra needs to do an entire image activation...which combined
with the CGI image activation means you need two processes
to server one user request. (Not counting the httpd process
itself!)

-Tony Leotta
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From:         "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
Subject:      Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc in C API?
In-Reply-To:  <MAPI.Id.0016.00616e6b202020203545363630303231@MAPI.to.RFC822>

Hi-

I'm a little confused as to the Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc in the C API
documentation.

A prototype is listed for Ns_RequestAuthorizeProc, and a template for the
Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc is shown, but I am unclear as to exactly how I
should define my Authentication procedure, and how I pass that to the
Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc function.

Tnx.




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From:         Jim Wilcoxson <jim@ms.kallback.com>
Organization: Merit Software, Inc.
Subject:      Re: ODBC question

James Cholke wrote:
>
> I finally was able to setup a System DSN database for 'agency' in the ODBC
> 32bit Administrator.  I am now receiving this error.....
>
> ] Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc):  Opening datasource:  agency
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: SQLConnect(agency, Admin, )
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Error: ODBC message: SQLSTATE = S1000,
> Native err = 51, msg = '[Microsoft][ODBC Driver pack 2.0 Driver]General
> error Unable to open registry key 'DriverId'.'
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc):  Opening
> datasource:  agency
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: SQLConnect(agency, Admin, )
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Error: ODBC message: SQLSTATE = S1000,
> Native err = 51, msg = '[Microsoft][ODBC Driver pack 2.0 Driver]General
> error Unable to open registry key 'DriverId'.'
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc):  Opening
> datasource:  agency
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: SQLConnect(agency, Admin, )
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Error: ODBC message: SQLSTATE = S1000,
> Native err = 51, msg = '[Microsoft][ODBC Driver pack 2.0 Driver]General
> error Unable to open registry key 'DriverId'.'
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc):  Opening
> datasource:  agency
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: SQLConnect(agency, Admin, )
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Error: ODBC message: SQLSTATE = S1000,
> Native err = 51, msg = '[Microsoft][ODBC Driver pack 2.0 Driver]General
> error Unable to open registry key 'DriverId'.'
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc):  Opening
> datasource:  agency
> [25/Apr/1996:09:49:20 -0500][178.144] Notice: SQLConnect(agency, Admin, )
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> **************************************************************
> James Cholke, Computer Information Specialist 2 (Internet/WWW)
> Missouri Department of Economic Development
> Phone:  (573)751-4706  Email:  jcholke@mail.state.mo.us
> **************************************************************


I was getting this error before I upgraded my ODBC drivers.  Get the
file ge1263.exe from Microsoft's web site.   -Jim
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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:25:47 -0400
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From:         Jonathan Yarden <jyarden@hammer.tool.net>
Subject:      WANTED: Rotating access logs

I'm looking for a way to automatically rotate access logs.  nslog doesn't
do what I am looking for.  Specifically, I would want to be able to
either rotate logs according to a particular "fixed" schedule (i.e.,
weekly, monthly, quarterly) or to a user-defined schedule.

The idea here is to break the anaconda-like access.log file into smaller
chunks to get better access statistics (size of file) and be able to
delete older data without having to restart the server.  Part two of this
project might be to implement a page-based statistics database...

I'd be willing to work with anyone on this.  I don't think it would be
too difficult, but it sure would be nice to start with the source code
for the Naviserver/GNNServer nslog module.   If the GNN folks want the
code, they can have it as far as I'm concerned;  I'm just desparate for
the rotating logs!

Jon Yarden, Sysadmin, Internet Tool & Die
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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:34:09 -0700
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From:         Jim Kirkpatrick <james@geoworks.com>
Subject:      User Passwords

Hi. I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if this is one of those
oft-answered questions. A pointer to an FAQ would also be appreciated.

We've set up a server here, and expect that users can change their own
passwords. We use /NS/Perm/ChangePasswordForm. Currently, when a user tries
to change his/her password, it seems to work until the user is asked for
authorization. At this point, they get a browser dialog box:

         Username and Password Required:

        Enter Username for Server1 at SG:

Here, they enter their user name and *old* password. We get an
"authorization failed" message. I've looked through the online docs,
downloaded the docs an read them, and I still don't have a clue.

nsadmin *is* able to change passwords.

Stupid user error?
Stupid Setup error?

Thanks,

-Jim Kirkpatrick
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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:40:47 CDT
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From:         "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
Subject:      Problems adding MIME types (GNN 2.03 on NT)

Greets-

I'm running GNN 2.03 on WinNT3.51sp4, and am running into problems with =

adding MIME types.

I have tried to add support for Director types (.dcr, .dir., .dxr)

I have added them in the config file under the server1 virtual server. =
 The server
will boot fine, with no error messages, however, when a page is accessed =
that
contains a file of one of the above types, it appears as an unrecognized =
MIME
type....

I double and triple checked the config, and all seems well.... Does anybo=
dy
have any ideas as to what would cause this??

Tnx

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
Tank (SPM)              Sean P. McNamara
Tank@PG.NET             The Planet Group, Inc.
                        Network Operations Center
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From:         Miguel Navarro <navarro@sfsu.edu>
Subject:      911: ns_db getrow

I am having trouble using getrow?

What's wrong with this:

(already defined db as the db pool handler]
set allrows [ns_db select $db "select * from ClassEnrollmentTbl where
StudentID='$StudentID'"]
set row1 [ns_db getrow $db $allrows]
return $conn 200 plain/text "$row1"
Miguel Navarro
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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 1996 15:05:06 -0400
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From:         Peter Wu <pkwu@lehman.com>
Subject:      server side parsed html

Hi,

I have a few questions about server-parsed html ...

1) In the shtml configuration page, what's the difference between maps
   and extensions?  Do I specify *.shtml and then specify .shtml as
   the extension?  How does that work exactly?  Thanks.

2) When I try to view a file with .shtml extension with Netscape, it
   pops up with a file dialog box asking me where I want to save a
   file of type x-server-parsed-html.  How do I get gnnserver to send
   the file back to netscape as a .html file?

3) Is there support for server-side html pages within gnnpress?

Thanks.

---
Peter Wu - pkwu@lehman.com
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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:17:38 -0400
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From:         gnat <gnat@aol.net>
Subject:      Stopping/Delaying a shutdown.

Is there any way for a module to force the GNNServer to stay alive after
it has been sent a shutdown signal so the module can finish processing
anydata it might be working with?
I'm looking in terms of a normal kill command or the termination from
running in the foreground.

Thanks,
David Whittle
Digital City
gnat@aol.net
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Date:         Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:24:46 -0400
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From:         Peter Wu <pkwu@lehman.com>
Subject:      database services

Hi,

I'm utilizing the automatically generated forms to allow users to
enter/search data with a table, but I couldn't find the right commands
to turn on the insertrow/searchqbf/etc. permissions to allow
non-nsadmin users to use the forms so I added permissions for every
call that the automatically generated forms made.  What is the
appropriate way to do this?  Or is that the correct way?

Also .. are there plans to make any other ns_tables custimizations
other than table_inserturl?  I need something like table_updateurl so
that the users can get back into the pages that they came from before
calling the automatically generated forms.  Right now they'd need to
press "back" a couple of times to get back up the hierarchy.

Thanks.

Also .. has anyone experienced problems with gnnpress 1.2 when trying
to traverse links in certain web pages?  It sometimes just wants to
edit the pages and will only allow me to select the text of a link
instead of allowing me to press the link like gnnpress 1.1 always did.

---
Peter Wu - pkwu@lehman.com
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Date:         Thu, 2 May 1996 14:28:22 +0200
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From:         Kristian Jorg <krjg@befor.se>
Subject:      Illustra datasource problems

Hi,

how should I construct the datasource argument. I have created a database
called gnndb on the server befor1, which is the same server gnnserver runs on.

Gnnserver runs fine, illustra runs fine. I can connect to it with
"nsql -U miadmin -P miadmin gnndb". But however I try the datasource setting
in gnnserver it fails. The server is a SunOS 4.1.4 machine. I tried the
following:

befor1:gnndb
192.9.200.1:gnndb
localhost:gnndb

No luck, here's the log:

[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Notice: Ns_ModuleLoad(server1):  Loading module:  nsdb.so
[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:  Loading module file:  /proj1/web/gnnserver/bin/nsdb.so
[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Notice: Ns_ModuleLoad(illustra):  Loading module:  nsill.so
[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:  Loading module file:  /proj1/web/gnnserver/bin/nsill.so
[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(illustra):  Opening datasource:  localhost:gnndb
[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Error: Ns_IllOpenDb(illustra):  Could not open connection to:  localhost:gnndb
[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(illustra):  Opening datasource:  localhost:gnndb
[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Error: Ns_IllOpenDb(illustra):  Could not open connection to:  localhost:gnndb
[30/Apr/1996:13:40:18 +0000][4605.0xac430] Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could not initialize pool: gnndb

So what's the deal? Help!

/Kristian
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Date:         Fri, 3 May 1996 10:13:13 +0100
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From:         Cass Tyson <ctyson@netsmarts.com>
Subject:      Wherefore art thou assets dir?

Can someone please 'splain to me about the "About Assets" setup? I want to
return a different graphic at the top of directory listings. When I view
source of a dir listing, I see that the graphic wants to be
/ns/assets/notice.gif. I changed the Assets directory to be /graphics, and
I put a notice.gif there.

Question 1: Why does the code for a dir listing _still_ show that graphic
to be /ns/assets/notice.gif when I've changed the assets dir to /graphics?
(Obviously it shows up now as a broken graphic.)

Setup module says:

About Assets                   Directory where graphics files to be
                               included in pages are stored. By
                               default, GNNserver looks in the
                               /servers/server/modules/assets
                               directory first, and if that doesn't
                               exist, the /assets directory.

Assets:                        /graphics

The doc says:

NT:   \servers\server\modules\assets   Directory where graphics files to be
                                       included in pages are stored.

(This is one case where the built-in help in the server is more help than
the documentation!)

I've tried putting a notice.gif in:

/server/servers/vserver/pages/graphics   (first and logical ? choice)
/server/servers/vserver/modules/assets/graphics
/server/servers/vserver/modules/assets/
/server/servers/vserver/modules/graphics
/server/servers/vserver/graphics/

But none work. IOW, I've successfully switched away from the default, which
is    /server/assets  (apparently contrary to what the doc says), but now I
can't figure out where it's looking.

Question 2 (which would nullify Question 1):  How can I change the name of
the graphic or redirect to a template? I can't find an answer to this
anywhere. (I like the way you can redirect internal errors, URL not found,
etc, to specific files, and I've done that successfully.)

Any help would be appreciated.

Cass Tyson
NetSmarts EPS Inc.
ctyson@netsmarts.com
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Date:         Fri, 3 May 1996 11:40:19 -0400
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From:         Dan Herschlag <dan@intercom.com>
Subject:      Re: Optimizing server
In-Reply-To:  <199605030400.AAA16493@services.web.aol.com>

Hi,

We're running GNNServer 2.03 on NT 3.51 and notice that it's slower than
we think it should be considering the load. I'd appreciate any clues on
how to optimize the web server or the OS. We'd like to cache pages in RAM
as much as possible, but don't know the best methods. I guess that last
query is probably an NT question so forgive me if it's too out of place.

TIA,
Dan
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Date:         Fri, 3 May 1996 13:13:28 -0400
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From:         Scott Munro <smunro@connix.com>
Subject:      REMOTE_HOST Info from ns_conn?

Hi folks.

On some of the old public domain httpd's (NCSA etc.), the remote
connection's host name was passed via the environment variable REMOTE_HOST.
Within the GNNServer environment, I know that it is possible to get the
remote connection's IP Address with

   ns_conn peeraddr <connId>

Is there a way to get the remote host name? I'm writing an app which needs
to take specific action based on seeing .edu, .com, .mil etc. on the end of
the host name.

Thanx,

Scott
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 13:16:22 -0500
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From:         "Peter M. Jansson" <petej@clickvision.com>
Subject:      Re: 911: ns_db getrow

>I am having trouble using getrow?
>
>What's wrong with this:
>
>(already defined db as the db pool handler]
>set allrows [ns_db select $db "select * from ClassEnrollmentTbl where
>StudentID='$StudentID'"]
>set row1 [ns_db getrow $db $allrows]
>return $conn 200 plain/text "$row1"
>Miguel Navarro

You have several problems here:

First, the SQL in your select statement is unterminated -- don't forget the
semicolon!

Second, getrow returns an ns_set, not a string; it won't be legal HTML that
you can return.

Third, you probably meant "return [ns_return $conn..." instead

Finally, don't forget to flush the unfetched rows from the select statement
-- the documentation specifically warns about this.  It could prevent the
statement from working twice.

Pete.
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 15:19:14 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@gnnhost.com>
Subject:      Improvements to the page builder module

Hello, all. I'm finally back from Internet World -- I apologize for the delay
in approving list traffic. I will set up an alternate moderator in the future!

I wanted to let you know of a couple of improvements to the dynamic pages
module. First, I have modified the sql generating code so that it doesn't
require an "approved" field; here is the new code:

    set sql "select * from table"
    set queries 0
    set formsize [ns_set size $formdata]
    for {set i 0} {$i < $formsize} {incr i} {
        if {[ns_set value $formdata $i] != ""} {
            if {$queries == 0} {
                append sql " where"
                incr queries
            } else {
                append sql " and"
            }
            append sql " [ns_set key $formdata $i] like \
            [quotesqlvalue [ns_set value $formdata $i]]"
        }
    }
    append sql ";"

In addition, I added a support script which was missing:

proc quotesqlvalue {value} {
    set value "%${value}%"
    regsub -all "'" $value "''" value
    return "'$value'"
}

You can find the complete script in the Developer's Corner:

http://www.gnnhost.com/develop/code/index.htm

Regards,
Jeff Rawlings -- rawlings@gnnhost.com -- http://www.gnnhost.com/
Internet Marketing Manager, GNN Hosting Service
  *Web hosting with multiple-T3 connectivity and 7x24 monitoring
  *GNNserver software, with relational database and full APIs
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 20:18:28 +0000
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From:         Christof Schmidbauer <jwgi@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de>
Organization: Ferengi Institute for Business Ethics
Subject:      Re: Remote manual stop/start via telnet on NT

On 21 Apr 96 at 10:36, Kireau Kendrick wrote:

> My GNNServer is remotely located on a machine that is colocating at
> an isp quite a ways away. I have a telnet daemon installed and would
> like to stop and start the server via telnet, remotely, in order for
> the nsadmin changes to take place.

Use the net command at the command prompt under NT:
net stop GNNserver
net start GNNserver

--Christof
Christof Schmidbauer jwgi@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de
@ Vereinigung Technischer Analysten Deutschlands e.V.
http://caladan.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de/VTAD/
@ Accelcom
http://www.accelcom.de/
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 14:35:35 -0400
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From:         Jonathan Yarden <jyarden@hammer.tool.net>
Subject:      Re: rewriting the permission module
In-Reply-To:  <960429181112_283501022@emout12.mail.aol.com> from
              "Aleotta@AOL.COM" at Apr 29, 96 06:11:12 pm

> Given Illustra's extremely poor performance due to the fork/exec for
> every user connection, I agree.  However, I propose that a gateway
> process could be placed in front of Illustra that would maintain
> live connections.  The application code would have to connect
> to the gateway using TCP/IP and some new database API.

Hmm...I thought that the database pools took care of this.  Then again, I
might be wrong.  At least for the IRIX platform, I see lots of
back-to-back TCP connections between nsd and miserver, so I don't belive
that a fork takes place each time you do an SQL call.  The servers are
already loaded.  That's what I understand the pools are for.

> Until Informix can improve Illustra, I am afraid we a struck with a
> rather bad problem.  I too, would like to check Illustra on every user
> request to the httpd server.  I am a great fan of on-the-fly HTML,
> however, I am seeing really aweful performance on my slower
> sparc-2 class server.

I haven't had any problems with the databases for the Cobb Group's web
site.  They have over 300,000 subscribers and it seems to work just fine
for me.  I only validate access to 64 controlled directories and about
1500 files (I skip validation on GIF's), but it's almost instant using
indexed access.

The box is an SGI Challenge-S with 64MB RAM if that's any indication of
speed.


Jon Yarden, SysAdmin, Internet Tool & Die
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 17:37:47 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Request Error

At 11:11 AM 4/24/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello all!
>
>I am trying to allow a client to use Netscape Gold for editing.
>Does it work?  He is not able to save.  Username and passwords
>are right.
>
>When I try locally, I get a request error:
>
>        Error uploading files
>        The server responded:
>        <hr>
>        <notice.gif>
>        Request Error
>        <hr>
>        Could not save file
>        For further assistance, contact the server administrator.
>
>As I remember, using NaviServer, Netscape Gold worked great.
>What am I doing <again>?

If I recall, Netscape Gold expects you to type a directory name into
its "Save" dialog; it then saves your selected files into that directory
with there current filenames.

If you try to type in the full filename, as in "/mydirectory/file.htm",
then netscape will try to save your file as "/mydirectory/file.htm/file.htm".
The request error is that the directory /mydirectory/file.htm doesn't exist.

I guess this means that there's no equivalent to "save as..." with Netscape
Gold! It cannot change the filenames during a publish operation the way
GNNpress does.

Cheers,

Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
Moderator, gnnhost-l and gnndeveloper-l
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 17:51:17 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@navisoft.com>

At 09:04 AM 4/23/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello Jeff,
>
>I have created a database form and I have the fields I
>need.
>
>I want one of the fields to be a "select from list" option.  This is easy
>in the forms option in Navipress, but how do I do it on
>the server.
>
>I tried editing the server generated form with the NaviPress
>editor but that did not work.
>
>I looked at the code for the date which generates the menu
>options for the month.  The html code looks easy to
>reproduce manually but is there a way to do it without
>touching the code.

Richard, try this:

        1) Search the ns_columns table for the column you want represented as
           a select list.
        2) update that column's row in the ns_columns table: set the
           column_htmltag_type to select or selectornull, and set the
           column_htmltag_data to a quote-separated list of elements.

Once this is done, the auto-generated entry, select, and update tables ought
to present this column as a selection list, with the elements you specified.

Cheers,

Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
Moderator, gnnhost-l and gnndeveloper-l
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 17:51:21 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Printing With Navipress

At 01:12 AM 4/23/96 -0400, "Stephen R. Sinotte" <webmaster@world-web.com> wrote:

>>        Using an Epson Stylus Color ESC-P2 with Navipress in Windows 3.x, I
>can print Web pages, complete with color backgrounds, provided the
>background is an image file. In Windows 95, however, I can not print at all
>with Navipress. The print menu selection is not available. Is there a
>work-around for this? Unlike in Windows 3.x, Navipress runs flawlessly in
>Win95. I can have Netscape running side by side with Navipress so as to
>monitor changes to pages in real time (using Netscape reload button). It
>would also be nice to be able to print the pages in color with the
>backgrounds. No other browser that I know of allows printing the backgrounds
>in either version of Windows. Thanks for any input.

You should upgrade to GNNpress 1.1 -- the Windows95 print bug has been fixed.

Cheers,

Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
Moderator, gnnhost-l and gnndeveloper-l
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 16:01:09 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Directory listing response
In-Reply-To:  <9605032256.AA10377@huge.apcom.com> (message from ACS on Fri, 3
              May 1996 15:56:32 -0700)

>>>>> "Hugo" == ACS  <hugo@apcom.com> writes:

    Hugo> Under the NS/Setup/VServer/xyz in expert mode you can
    Hugo> configure the url's for NotFoundResponse,
    Hugo> UnauthorisedResponse and ForbiddenResponse.  How can I set
    Hugo> up a header url so that a directory listing response returns
    Hugo> it (as the header) instead of the GNNserver logo.

Your best bet is to put in your own notice.gif in the assets
subdirectory under your installation directory.  If you want to do
this just a particular virtual server, make a copy of the assets
directory in servers/<your server name> and change the notice.gif
there.


doug

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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 16:05:34 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: rewriting the permission module
In-Reply-To:  <960429181112_283501022@emout12.mail.aol.com> (Aleotta@aol.com)

>>>>> "Tony" == Aleotta  <Aleotta@aol.com> writes:

    Tony> In a message dated 96-04-29 15:23:11 EDT, you write:
    >> Ed, you might find that going to the database EVERY TIME you
    >> service an HTTP
    Tony> request will be too slow.

    Tony> Given Illustra's extremely poor performance due to the
    Tony> fork/exec for every user connection, I agree.  However, I

Actually, one of the great things about GNNserver is that it does NOT
start a new connection to Illustra each time!  At start up, GNNserver
builds up a pool of open connections which it doles out as needed --
much faster than a fork/exec.  Even so, I would be wary about writing
an authorization module that checked the database every connection;
it's still on the slow side.  With good caching though (e.g., remember
users and passwords in memory), it can work well.

doug

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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 16:35:46 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Calling TCL functions in C modules?
In-Reply-To:  <MAPI.Id.0016.00616e6b202020203341434530303044@MAPI.to.RFC822>
              (Tank@PG.NET)

> What is the proper way to call Tcl functions while in a C module?  I
> tried to find this in the documentation, but was not able to....

I thought this function was documented, but I guess not; it should be:

EXTERN int      Ns_TclEval(Ns_DString *pds, char *hServer, char *script);

It writes the results to the passed in dstring.

doug
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc in C API?
In-Reply-To:  <MAPI.Id.0016.00616e6b202020203632463530303234@MAPI.to.RFC822>
              (Tank@PG.NET)

>>>>> "Sean" == SPM  <Tank> writes:

    Sean> Hi- I'm a little confused as to the
    Sean> Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc in the C API documentation.

    Sean> A prototype is listed for Ns_RequestAuthorizeProc, and a
    Sean> template for the Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc is shown, but I
    Sean> am unclear as to exactly how I should define my
    Sean> Authentication procedure, and how I pass that to the
    Sean> Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc function.

Here's the C for the default authorization checker; i.e., what the
GNNserver does if the nsperm module is not loaded.  It allows any user
to GET/POST/BROWSE/HEAD the server, but only the DEFAULT_USER to do
anything else.

In the module initialization procedure, Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc
is called with the new AuthorizeProc; in this case SingleUser:

static int SingleUser(char *hServer, char *method, char *url,
        char *authuser, char *authpasswd, char *ipaddr);

int
Ns_ModuleInit(char *hServer, char *hModule)
{
    Ns_SetRequestAuthorizeProc(hServer, SingleUser);

}


#define CONFIG_PASSWORD "Password"      /*-Key in [ns\server\<server>]: nsadmin password when no Unix auth. */
#define DEFAULT_USER    "nsadmin"

/*
 * SingleUser -
 *
 * The default URL check procedure.
 */
static int
SingleUser(char *hServer, char *method, char *url,
        char *authuser, char *authpasswd, char *ipaddr)
{
    char           *passwd;

    if (STREQ(method, "GET") ||
        STREQ(method, "POST") ||
        STREQ(method, "BROWSE") ||
        STREQ(method, "HEAD")) {
        return NS_OK;
    }
    passwd = Ns_ConfigGet(Ns_ConfigPath(hServer, NULL, NULL), CONFIG_PASSWORD);
    if (passwd == NULL) {
        return NS_FORBIDDEN;
    } else if ((authuser != NULL) && (authpasswd != NULL) && STREQ(DEFAULT_USER, authuser)
        && STREQ(authpasswd, passwd)) {
        return NS_OK;
    } else {
        return NS_UNAUTHORIZED;
    }
}
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 16:44:29 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: WANTED: Rotating access logs
In-Reply-To:  <199604301526.LAA00348@hammer.tool.net> (message from Jonathan
              Yarden on Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:25:47 -0400)

>>>>> "Jon" == Jonathan Yarden <jyarden@hammer.tool.net> writes:

    Jon> I'm looking for a way to automatically rotate access logs.
    Jon> nslog doesn't do what I am looking for.  Specifically, I
    Jon> would want to be able to either rotate logs according to a
    Jon> particular "fixed" schedule (i.e., weekly, monthly,
    Jon> quarterly) or to a user-defined schedule.

This functionality is in GNNserver 2.1 which should be ready for beta
in about 2 weeks.  We would just dump the module out now, but it
depends on some new functionality built into the core server to handle
time based interupts.

doug

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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 18:12:11 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: User Passwords
In-Reply-To:  <2.2.32.19960430153409.006de780@pophost.geoworks.com> (message
              from Jim Kirkpatrick on Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:34:09 -0700)

>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Kirkpatrick <james@geoworks.com> writes:

    Jim> Hi. I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if this is one
    Jim> of those oft-answered questions. A pointer to an FAQ would
    Jim> also be appreciated.

    Jim> We've set up a server here, and expect that users can change
    Jim> their own passwords. We use
    Jim> /NS/Perm/ChangePasswordForm. Currently, when a user tries to
    Jim> change his/her password, it seems to work until the user is
    Jim> asked for authorization. At this point, they get a browser
    Jim> dialog box:

    Jim>          Username and Password Required:

    Jim>         Enter Username for Server1 at SG:

    Jim> Here, they enter their user name and *old* password. We get
    Jim> an "authorization failed" message. I've looked through the
    Jim> online docs, downloaded the docs an read them, and I still
    Jim> don't have a clue.

    Jim> nsadmin *is* able to change passwords.

    Jim> Stupid user error?  Stupid Setup error?

Neither, the default permission for changing passwords is wrong.
Sorry about that.  Change the permission for

        POST /NS/Perm/ChangePassword

to No Restriction on Users and No Restriction on Groups and you'll get
the expected behavior -- users can change their own (but nobody
else's) passwords.

Thanks for letting us know the problem!

doug

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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 11:43:54 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: E-mail question

At 07:56 AM 4/20/96 UT, you wrote:
>I'm not sure if this is the correct forum with which to post, but thought I'd
>give it a whirl anyway...
>
>I have a client who I have pretty much sold on the idea of utilizing GNN
>Hosting service at the Domain level, rather than starting off with a dedicated
>service at his site.  I explained that with mail aliasing, each employee could
>have their_name@hiscompany.com, and the mail could be forwarded to business
>email address with their ISP.  He is setting up a Windows/Windows95 network
>that I think right now is peer-to-peer, and planning on using MS Exchange for
>intra office e-mail.  So right now, his only hang up on going with the hosting
>service, is that he would like the mail that comes in sorted automatically to
>the intended recipient.  My suggestion to him, was that just as he has a
>receptionist who sorts incoming messages, the receptionist could sort and
>forward the incoming mail to the appropriate person.  This however does not
>seem acceptable to him, yet paying the price to have the dedicated server at
>their site, (or even the Dedicated GNN level) just to have a mail server
>running seems a bit high.  Any thoughts?

Yes! As a domain or commercial customer, you can have as many email aliases
as you want. So, assuming that each of your client's employees has a
separate email account at their ISP, all he needs to do is set up equivalent
aliases on his GNN-hosted web server. Each alias can forward the email to an
individual employee's real address, or to any group of employees.

Cheers,

Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
Moderator, gnnhost-l and gnndeveloper-l
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 13:32:00 -0700
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From:         ACS <hugo@apcom.com>
Subject:      HEEEEEEELPPP! (access permissions)
Comments: cc: rawlings@GNNHOST.COM

I seem to have gotten into a rotten possition with a server I just re-installed.
I'm having problems with the nsperm stuff.

Originally I started having problems in one of the virtual servers in the POST
method and I tried to fix that and everything has gone down hill from there.

Now it's gotten to the point where I can't get into ANY of the access control
stuff because the server no longer accepts my password that I had set up.

I tried to move the old nsperm directories to nsperm- in each of the servers/
servername/modules directories and going in to the Setup GNNserver and
going to each virtual server and going to the nsperm link and doing an update
which seems to write out a new nsperm directory under each "servers"
subdirectory but when I re-start the server and get into the NS/Perm/Admin and
I click pn the Show all users link I get an Authorization failed after entering
the nsadmin and it's password.

Heeeeeeeelpppppp!!!

My users are going to tar and feather me since none of the cgi scripts (posts)
are working!!!!!

Hugo
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Date:         Mon, 6 May 1996 19:24:19 -0300
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From:         Io =?iso-8859-1?Q?Comunica=E7=E3o?= <io@iocom.com>
Subject:      Sever SW upgrade

I have recently upgraded to commercial service and was told that by May 2, I would have my Sever SW upgraded to 2.0 or any better, but my /NS/About page still says I'm under 1.01.

Any delay?

What's cookin'?

What about the goodies we the commercial service customers were told we would  have.

Daniel Leite
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From:         "R. Craig Porter" <tripower@sonline.com>
Subject:      Incompatibilities between MS C++ and Borland C++

Hello,

I sent email a couple of days ago about unresolved externals when
compling with Borland's C++ 5.0.  I've discovered the problem.  I need
verification and a solution. The problem is that MS C++ compiles into
COFF format, but Borland's .OBJ files are compiled into AMF format. The
two incompatibilities cause numerous headaches when trying to translate
from one to the other. First, the externals in the NSD.LIB file are
created as "NS_xxxxxx", but Borland expects to see them as "_NS_xxxx".
So, my two questions are.

1).  For verification, is the NSD.LIB and other .LIBs in \BIN compiled
under Microsoft C++?

2).  If so, has anyone run into the problem before?  It would seem
common, given the popularity of the two development platforms.

I've talked with Borland support (at $2.00 per minute!) and the best
they can tell me is to obtain the source code from you and recompile
all of the libraries.  I've taken the NSD.DLL file and imported it into
a .LIB file, but this isn't a workable solution. Do you have any
suggestions???  I guess if I could get the source code for the LIBs, I
could re-compile them all, but there has to be a better way.

Thanks for a great product,

R. Craig Porter
TriPower & Associates
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Date:         Wed, 1 May 1996 14:12:39 -0400
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From:         ShaunWCA@aol.com
Subject:      Re: BBS or Message base programs

Check out Mustang software's Wildcat 5. Their new package is html based BBS
software. It allows connection to the internet in a real easy to follow
setup. You can see them at http://www.mustang.com or feel free to ask me any
questions that you have. It's an awesome package that allows you to
incorporate a web page and a BBS, all in one.
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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 14:33:41 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@gnnhost.com>
Subject:      Re: BBS or Message base programs

At 02:16 AM 4/24/96 -0400, Rick Adams wrote:
>
>        I'm looking for software (cgi, etc.) that will allow me to add a bbs
>type message base to my web site. I teach at a small college, and would like
>to provide a series of topic-specific message bases where students can
>exchange views on issues relevant to the classes as well as a message base
>for use as an experimental peer-counseling project for youth.
>
>        Ideally, the software will be freeware or very low cost (the college
>is NOT underwriting this, I'm donating the space on my home server) and
>reasonably easy to implement (I'm not a newbie, but neither am I an
>experienced cgi programmer--or even an experienced website administrator).
>One message base I encountered was webBBS (in use on several systems in the
>US), and I've seen messages indicating that a number of others ones are in
>use which are cgi based.

Here are a few that I saw at Internet World last week:
        Allaire Forums: http://www.allaire.com/  (Windows only)
        E-community: http://www.cadmus-i.com/  (Unix only)
        net.Thread:  http://www.netgen.com/

If anyone else has ideas, suggestions, or recommendations, please send them!

Regards,


Jeff Rawlings -- rawlings@gnnhost.com -- http://www.gnnhost.com/
Internet Marketing Manager, GNN Hosting Service
  *Web hosting with multiple-T3 connectivity and 7x24 monitoring
  *GNNserver software, with relational database and full APIs
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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 10:37:02 -0700
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From:         "Scott R. Madans" <smadans@ihp.com>
Organization: Instant Homepage
Subject:      Re: E-mail question

Jeff Rawlings wrote:
>
> At 07:56 AM 4/20/96 UT, you wrote:
> >I'm not sure if this is the correct forum with which to post, but thought I'd
> >give it a whirl anyway...
> >
> >I have a client who I have pretty much sold on the idea of utilizing GNN
> >Hosting service at the Domain level, rather than starting off with a dedicated
> >service at his site.  I explained that with mail aliasing, each employee could
> >have their_name@hiscompany.com, and the mail could be forwarded to business
> >email address with their ISP.  He is setting up a Windows/Windows95 network
> >that I think right now is peer-to-peer, and planning on using MS Exchange for
> >intra office e-mail.  So right now, his only hang up on going with the hosting
> >service, is that he would like the mail that comes in sorted automatically to
> >the intended recipient.  My suggestion to him, was that just as he has a
> >receptionist who sorts incoming messages, the receptionist could sort and
> >forward the incoming mail to the appropriate person.  This however does not
> >seem acceptable to him, yet paying the price to have the dedicated server at
> >their site, (or even the Dedicated GNN level) just to have a mail server
> >running seems a bit high.  Any thoughts?
>
> Yes! As a domain or commercial customer, you can have as many email aliases
> as you want. So, assuming that each of your client's employees has a
> separate email account at their ISP, all he needs to do is set up equivalent
> aliases on his GNN-hosted web server. Each alias can forward the email to an
> individual employee's real address, or to any group of employees.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
> Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
> Moderator, gnnhost-l and gnndeveloper-l
> For inquiries about Web Hosting, send email to <info@gnnhost.com>-------------------

I'am sort of new to all this and I am not sure if this exists, but can't
someone setup something like a dial-up SMTP server?  I'm not sure how you
would do it, but you should be able to find out from your ISP.

I am looking for the same type of solution because my "dedicated" line is
ISDN.  ISP's consider ISDN dial-up even if it is unlimited use.

Regards,

Scott
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From:         Chris Cline <slonline@usa.pipeline.com>
Subject:      16-Bit ODBC Data Sources

Thanks for the help with my previous question about ODBC.  It only solved
half of my problems, however.  GNNServer now recognizes all 32-Bit Data
Sources, whether they are System DSN's or not.  Adding a my user name &
password in the services control panel too care of that.  16-bit data
sources are still not visible in the Data Services Administration page.  If
it helps any, I have a 32-Bit ODBC Control Panel, where only 32-Bit Data
Sources are listed, and I have a separate ODBC Administrator (ODBCADM.EXE)
that lists both 16 and 32-bit Data Sources.

Again, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris
slonline@usa.pipeline.com
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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 17:31:54 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@gnnhost.com>
Subject:      Slight improvement to mailform module...

If you are using the mailform module, you might want to note a slight
improvement I've included. I added the following script:

proc regsubquote {value} {
    regsub -all "&" $value {\\\&} value
    return $value
}

In the mailform proc, I call this script wherever I do a regsub, as in:

    for {set i 0} {$i < $size} {incr i} {
        regsub -all "#[ns_set key $formdata $i]" $template\
                "[regsubquote [ns_set value $formdata $i]]" template
    }

Normally, regsub will replace the & character with the value you are
substituting, which can cause your email message to be a bit screwy. This
script fixes the problem.

Cheers,

Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 16:28:22 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Problems adding MIME types (GNN 2.03 on NT)
In-Reply-To:  <MAPI.Id.0016.00616e6b202020203333373030303233@MAPI.to.RFC822>
              (Tank@PG.NET)

>>>>> "Sean" == SPM  <Tank> writes:

    Sean> Greets- I'm running GNN 2.03 on WinNT3.51sp4, and am running
    Sean> into problems with adding MIME types.

    Sean> I have tried to add support for Director types (.dcr, .dir.,
    Sean> .dxr)

    Sean> I have added them in the config file under the server1
    Sean> virtual server. The server will boot fine, with no error
    Sean> messages, however, when a page is accessed = that contains a
    Sean> file of one of the above types, it appears as an
    Sean> unrecognized MIME type....

    Sean> I double and triple checked the config, and all seems
    Sean> well.... Does anybody have any ideas as to what would
    Sean> cause this??

It sounds like you might be missing the initial "." when you specify
the extension; send me your nsd.ini file and I'll see if anything
jumps out at me.

doug

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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 16:34:38 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: 911: ns_db getrow
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b04adb3f16e2024@[198.69.37.167]> (petej@clickvision.com)

>>>>> "Pete" == Peter M Jansson <petej@clickvision.com> writes:

    >> I am having trouble using getrow?
    >>
    >> What's wrong with this:
    >>
    >> (already defined db as the db pool handler]
    >> set allrows [ns_db
    >> select $db "select * from ClassEnrollmentTbl
    >> where StudentID='$StudentID'"]
    >> set row1 [ns_db getrow $db $allrows]
    >> return $conn 200 plain/text "$row1"

    Pete> You have several problems here:

    Pete> First, the SQL in your select statement is unterminated --
    Pete> don't forget the semicolon!

It's actually not recommended to terminate the SQL statement; it won't
hurt, but your code is more portable if you don't do it.

    Pete> Second, getrow returns an ns_set, not a string; it won't be
    Pete> legal HTML that you can return.

Absolutely true!  I think this is the main problem.  You need to use
the ns_set command to get the data out of $row.

    Pete> Third, you probably meant "return [ns_return $conn..."
    Pete> instead

Yup.

    Pete> Finally, don't forget to flush the unfetched rows from the
    Pete> select statement -- the documentation specifically warns
    Pete> about this.  It could prevent the statement from working
    Pete> twice.

Things will get cleaned up for you after the "return", but if you're
going to do anything else with the database handle in this function,
you should definitely cleanup with an "ns_db flush $db".

doug

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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Improvements to the page builder module
Comments: To: rawlings@gnnhost.com
In-Reply-To:  <2.2.32.19960506191914.00c99214@mail.gnnhost.com> (message from
              Jeff Rawlings on Mon, 6 May 1996 15:19:14 -0400)

> In addition, I added a support script which was missing:
>
> proc quotesqlvalue {value} {
>     set value "%${value}%"
>     regsub -all "'" $value "''" value
>     return "'$value'"
> }

Incidentally, 2.1 includes ns_dbquotevalue; appended below.  What's
the deal with the % signs?

# ns_dbquotevalue:
#
# Prepares a value string for inclusion in an SQL statement.
# "" is translated into NULL.
# All values of any numeric type are left alone.
# All other values are surrounded by single quotes and any
# single quotes included in the value are escaped (ie. translated
# into 2 single quotes).

proc ns_dbquotevalue {value {type text}} {
    if [string match $value ""] {
        return "NULL"
    }
    if {$type == "decimal" \
            || $type == "double" \
            || $type == "integer" \
            || $type == "real" \
            || $type == "smallint" \
            || $type == "bigint" \
            || $type == "bit" \
            || $type == "float" \
            || $type == "numeric" \
            || $type == "tinyint"} {
        return $value
    }
    regsub -all "'" $value "''" value
    return "'$value'"
}
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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 16:52:47 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Request Error
In-Reply-To:  <2.2.32.19960506213747.0129b224@mail.gnnhost.com> (message from
              Jeff Rawlings on Mon, 6 May 1996 17:37:47 -0400)

>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@navisoft.com> writes:

    Jeff> At 11:11 AM 4/24/96 -0700, you wrote:
    >> Hello all!
    >>
    >> I am trying to allow a client to use Netscape Gold for editing.
    >> Does it work?  He is not able to save.  Username and passwords
    >> are right.
    >>
    >> When I try locally, I get a request error:
    >>
    >> Error uploading files The server responded: <hr> <notice.gif>
    >> Request Error <hr> Could not save file For further assistance,
    >> contact the server administrator.
    >>
    >> As I remember, using NaviServer, Netscape Gold worked great.
    >> What am I doing <again>?

    Jeff> If I recall, Netscape Gold expects you to type a directory
    Jeff> name into its "Save" dialog; it then saves your selected
    Jeff> files into that directory with there current filenames.

    Jeff> If you try to type in the full filename, as in
    Jeff> "/mydirectory/file.htm", then netscape will try to save your
    Jeff> file as "/mydirectory/file.htm/file.htm".  The request error
    Jeff> is that the directory /mydirectory/file.htm doesn't exist.

    Jeff> I guess this means that there's no equivalent to "save
    Jeff> as..." with Netscape Gold! It cannot change the filenames
    Jeff> during a publish operation the way GNNpress does.

Another thing GNNpress lets you do is open the server like a file
system and browse around to find where you want to put your pages.

And incidentally, there might be an additional problem saving to
GNNserver with Gold: Gold seems to rely on the server supporting
Connection: Keep-alive on a PUT, and GNNserver 2.031/2.04 does not.
So for now, you may be stuck publishing 1 page at a time.

doug

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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 17:40:56 -0400
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From:         ShaunWCA@aol.com
Subject:      Re: BBS or Message base programs
Comments: cc: rawlings@GNNHOST.COM

As I wrote before, the new Wildcat 5 BBS software has a graphical side to it
that uses HTML. There is an add-on module for that that enables it as a web
server package also. It allow callers to connect via modem and/or Telnet. I
have implemented it for my company's BBS/Website and it has been very
succesful. You get more info from Mustang Softwares Website/BBS
 www.mustang.com.

Shaun Grogan
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From:         Gaute Amundsen <gaute@alpha1.nipnett.no>
Subject:      Re: E-mail question
Comments: cc: "Scott R. Madans" <smadans@ihp.com>

<snip>
>I'am sort of new to all this and I am not sure if this exists, but can't
>someone setup something like a dial-up SMTP server?  I'm not sure how you
>would do it, but you should be able to find out from your ISP.
>
>I am looking for the same type of solution because my "dedicated" line is
>ISDN.  ISP's consider ISDN dial-up even if it is unlimited use.
>
>Regards,
>
>Scott

Have a look at NT Mail, I am just seting up a server, and I think it has
some options for
dialup smtp.

gaute

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From:         Ted Goessling <ted.goessling@mts.com>
Subject:      Searching for Numbers

Subject: Searching for Numbers              Date:5/8/96        Time: 8:06 AM

The GNNserver documentation says:

>  Note that when you search for pages by qualifying on specific keywords,
>  you must search for "meaningful" search words, words that would appear
>  as index words for the page. If you search only for "noise" words,
>  such as "the" or "a" or numbers, you will receive an error message.

Three questions about searching:
--------------------------------

1)  Is there any way to control the behavior of Illustra or the search script
to change what is considered meaningful and/or noise?  We frequently refer to
the products at our site by number.  Thus we want users to be able to search
for things like "244.43" or "329".  I looked into the Illustra "stopwords"
file, but didn't see any numbers that I could mess with.  Please tell me
there's a way to do this.  It could be a real show stopper if there isn't!

2)  I've figured out how to restrict searches to certain areas of the server
(and it's an excellent feature!).  But is there a way to add new doc types to
what is searched (like .txt files)?  Right now it only searches .html files.

3)  Following on question 2, is there a way to mark certain directories and/or
files as NOT searchable?  We want users to be able to search the whole server,
but sometimes we need to temporarily protect certain directories from
searching while they are under construction.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Ted G.

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 Ted Goessling                                  ted.goessling@mts.com
 Technology Analyst                           MTS Systems Corporation
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Date:         Tue, 7 May 1996 17:46:50 -0400
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From:         ShaunWCA@aol.com
Subject:      Re: E-mail question
Comments: cc: rawlings@GNNHOST.COM, smadans@ihp.com

In a message dated 96-05-07 14:36:43 EDT, you write:

>> At 07:56 AM 4/20/96 UT, you wrote:
>> >I'm not sure if this is the correct forum with which to post, but thought
>I'd
>> >give it a whirl anyway...
>> >
>> >I have a client who I have pretty much sold on the idea of utilizing GNN
>> >Hosting service at the Domain level, rather than starting off with a
>dedicated
>> >service at his site.  I explained that with mail aliasing, each employee
>could
>> >have their_name@hiscompany.com, and the mail could be forwarded to
>business
>> >email address with their ISP.  He is setting up a Windows/Windows95
>network
>> >that I think right now is peer-to-peer, and planning on using MS Exchange
>for
>> >intra office e-mail.  So right now, his only hang up on going with the
>hosting
>> >service, is that he would like the mail that comes in sorted
automatically
>to
>> >the intended recipient.  My suggestion to him, was that just as he has a
>> >receptionist who sorts incoming messages, the receptionist could sort and
>> >forward the incoming mail to the appropriate person.  This however does
>not
>> >seem acceptable to him, yet paying the price to have the dedicated server
>at
>> >their site, (or even the Dedicated GNN level) just to have a mail server
>> >running seems a bit high.  Any thoughts?
>>
>> Yes! As a domain or commercial customer, you can have as many email
aliases
>> as you want. So, assuming that each of your client's employees has a
>> separate email account at their ISP, all he needs to do is set up
>equivalent
>> aliases on his GNN-hosted web server. Each alias can forward the email to
>an
>> individual employee's real address, or to any group of employees.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
>> Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
>> Moderator, gnnhost-l and gnndeveloper-l
>> For inquiries about Web Hosting, send email to
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>
>I'am sort of new to all this and I am not sure if this exists, but can't
>someone setup something like a dial-up SMTP server?  I'm not sure how you
>would do it, but you should be able to find out from your ISP.
>
>I am looking for the same type of solution because my "dedicated" line is
>ISDN.  ISP's consider ISDN dial-up even if it is unlimited use.
>
>Regards,
>
>Scott
>
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I think your problem can be solved pretty easily by using the MS Exchange
Server package. I use it for my office to retrieve internet mail and route it
to the appropriate mail boxes. If I read your message correctly then I feel
this could be the least painless solution. Give MS a call and talk to their
techies about it.

Shaun W. Grogan
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From:         falke@ade.hultsfred.se
Subject:      Re: E-mail question

> <snip>
> >I'am sort of new to all this and I am not sure if this exists, but can't
> >someone setup something like a dial-up SMTP server?  I'm not sure how you
> >would do it, but you should be able to find out from your ISP.
> >
> >I am looking for the same type of solution because my "dedicated" line is
> >ISDN.  ISP's consider ISDN dial-up even if it is unlimited use.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Scott
>
We are using NT Mail for this. It works OK


Best regards
Med vaenlig haelsning

Bengt Falke
-----------------------------
MIS, IT-chef
Bengt Falke
Hultsfreds kommun
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From:         Gaute Amundsen <gaute@alpha1.nipnett.no>
Subject:      Re: BBS or Message base programs

Check out Roundtable from Digital at www.altavista.software.digital.com


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Date:         Wed, 8 May 1996 17:19:01 +0100
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From:         Sean Trace <s.trace@fegs.co.uk>
Organization: FEGS Ltd.
Subject:      Illustra module problem

Hi,

Has anybody had the following Undefined symbol problem when adding the
nsdb module with illustra on a SUN 4.1.3.

I used ill3.2sun4.tar.Z

[08/May/1996:15:06:58 +0000][10161.0xa60e0] Notice:
Ns_ModuleLoad(server1):  Loading module:  nsdb.so[08/May/1996:15:06:58
+0000][10161.0xa60e0] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:  Loading module file:
/usr/local/intranet/GNNserver/bin/nsdb.so
[08/May/1996:15:06:58 +0000][10161.0xa60e0] Notice:
Ns_ModuleLoad(illustra):  Loading module:  nsill.so
[08/May/1996:15:06:58 +0000][10161.0xa60e0] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:
Loading module file:  /usr/local/intranet/GNNserver/bin/nsill.so
ld.so: Undefined symbol: _mi_default_callback

my nsd.ini is

[ns\module\nsdb\drivers]
illustra=nsill.so

[ns\module\nsdb\pool\test]
Driver=illustra
Connections=2
DataSource=default:test
User=intranet
Verbose=On
ExtendedTableInfo=On

[ns\module\nsdb\pools]
test=Test Database Pool

[ns\parameters]
home=/usr/local/intranet/GNNserver
User=intranet

[ns\server\server1]
DirectoryFile=index.html, index.htm, index.shtml
DirectoryListing=Fancy

[ns\server\server1\module\nsdb]
Pools=*
DefaultPool=test

[ns\server\server1\module\nssock]
Port=80
Hostname=intranet

[ns\server\server1\modules]
nssock=nssock.so
nsperm=nsperm.so
nslog=nslog.so
nsdb=nsdb.so

[ns\servers]
server1=Virtual Server One

[ns\setup]
Password=p2ueo2ORrhRkU

Many Thanks
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Date:         Wed, 8 May 1996 12:54:01 -0400
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From:         gnat <gnat@aol.net>
Subject:      Rotating Access log module.
In-Reply-To:  <960507174649_392978968@emout08.mail.aol.com>

Hello,
        Just recently I had to implement log rolling for a module I was
building, and because of the interest I have seen on this group for such
a thing I have pulled out the respective parts to make a toned down
version of nslog.so that allows you to specify a time, by the minute,
when to roll the log file. It does not have some of the features of
nslog.so, such as rolling at a certian size or how many logs to keep, but
it writes the log in the same format so it should be compatible with most
log readers. If you have problems or just want to change what its writing
I listed the line numbers in the notes I put in the source code that you
would need to change.
        There is more information in the source code about what it does
and how it works. The only draw back that I know of is that I doubt it
will work on NT without someone changing the code accordingly, sorry I
don't have a Windows compiler or any experiance with it. I have sent the
module to Doug to have him put it in the Developers corner. Since I know
he is a busy person you can get the module from me until it makes it to
the dev corner. If you are interested in it send me email and I will send
it to you. If you can not get files via email, its about 62k, let me know
so we can work something out.

David Whittle
Internet Systems Developer
Digital City
(P) (703) 918-2465
(F) (703) 917-1207
(E) gnat@aol.net
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Date:         Wed, 8 May 1996 14:40:32 -0500
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From:         "Peter M. Jansson" <petej@clickvision.com>
Subject:      Random number generator?

From reading the manual, it doesn't appear that Tcl has a random number
generator available as a standard component; does GNNServer have any
functions which will allow the generation of random (or pseudo-random)
numbers?

Pete.

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Peter M. Jansson                             petej@clickvision.com
Click Interactive Visions, LLC.                     (410) 488-3690
Interactive WWW development services.
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Date:         Wed, 8 May 1996 16:04:24 +0100
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From:         Cass Tyson <ctyson@netsmarts.com>
Subject:      user map dir and alias.dll

Please help!

I'm unclear how usermapdir and alias.dll work. I'm running GNNserver on NT.

Usermapdir is supposed to be: "The subdirectory under the user's home
directory in which to search for files when a  URL containing ~username is
specified. If blank (the default), ~username URLs will not  be mapped to
user directories."

OK. I set the usermap dir to www and restart the server. I create a user
called newuser under myserver. When I do this I check the box that says
"create a directory". I end up with

server/servers/myserver/pages/users/n/newuser/index.htm
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ all new

I then create a directory called www under the newuser directory, and move
the index.htm into it, thusly:

server/servers/myserver/pages/users/n/newuser/www/index.htm

I then call www.myserver.com/~newuser and get "Not Found". Error log says
"unknown user". Hmmmm...

I thought perhaps alias.dll would do the trick, so I undid the above and
installed the alias module. It seems to work--the startup log reports it
loads fine. Basically, tho, I get the same result as above.

The alias.dll code gives the following example setting, which seems closest
to the function of usermapdir:

     *    /~=~/pages        ;/~foot -> /home/foot/pages
     *                      ;OR /~foot/section -> /home/foot/pages/section

Perhaps the question is, how do I set the "/home" piece of the pie? I
really want it to be a different directory anyway, and I don't want the
"initial" subdirectory structure. Ie, I want the physical directory really
to be:

server/servers/myserver/pages/members/newuser

Anyone gone through this yet?  Thanks

Cass Tyson
NetSmarts EPS Inc.
ctyson@netsmarts.com
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Date:         Wed, 8 May 1996 16:59:59 -0400
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From:         gnat <gnat@aol.net>
Subject:      Re: Random number generator?
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b03adb6a758d7a0@[198.69.37.167]>

On Wed, 8 May 1996, Peter M. Jansson wrote:

> >From reading the manual, it doesn't appear that Tcl has a random number
> generator available as a standard component; does GNNServer have any
> functions which will allow the generation of random (or pseudo-random)
> numbers?

No GNNServer does not have that built in (at least the last time I heard)
but I do have a module that adds the Tcl command "ns_random" if anyone is
interested.

David Whittle
Internet Systems Developer
Digital City
(P) (703) 918-2465
(F) (703) 917-1207
(E) gnat@aol.net
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Date:         Wed, 8 May 1996 15:36:08 CDT
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From:         "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
Subject:      Link Errors for Ns_TclEval (which library?)
Comments: cc: doug@navisoft.com

Greets-

Ran into a strange link error today I am hoping somebody can help with...=
.

I am in the process of converting some code I had written in C over to =

C++...  The class has a member function which uses both the Ns_DString =

functions and makes a Tcl function call with Ns_TclEval....  The class =

compiles fine, but when I try to link it, I recieve:

error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "__declspec(dllimport) int
__cdecl Ns_TclEval(struct Ns_DString *,char *,char
*)"(__imp_?Ns_TclEval@@YAHPAUNs_DString@@PAD1@Z)
Debug/TestSite.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
Error executing link.exe.

The calls to the Ns_DString functions, however, do not cause a link error=
.

When implemented in C, the code links and runs fine...  Does anyone know =

what is causing the name mangling to occur with the Ns_TclEval function?

In looking at the headers, it appears that it would be extern "C" as is =

necessary, but....

Tnx.


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Date:         Wed, 8 May 1996 15:02:44 -0700
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From:         Jeff Gustafson <jeffgus@packardbell.com>
Subject:      GNNserver and caching... more info

        I was looking at the header of a GNNserver response compared to a
Netscape and NCSA's server.  Could Netscape Navigator miss the
'Last-modified' headers since GNNserver puts it last in the response?  I
guess I'm grasping here... just trying to find an answer.

---
Jeffrey Gustafson
jeffgus@packardbell.com
Technical Resources Group
Packard Bell Electronics, Inc.
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Date:         Wed, 8 May 1996 14:48:35 -0700
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From:         Jeff Gustafson <jeffgus@packardbell.com>
Subject:      GNN server and browser caching

        A co-worker pointed out to me that everytime he browses our site
or the GNN site, all of the graphics and text are reloaded from the server.
If he browses other sites this doesn't seems to happen because the browser
has cached the graphics or text.  For some reason GNNserver makes Netscape
think it always has to reload all of the graphics and text when it doesn't
need to.  Has anyone else had this same experience?  If this is a real
problem will it be fixed in the next version of GNN server?

---
Jeffrey Gustafson
jeffgus@packardbell.com
Technical Resources Group
Packard Bell Electronics, Inc.
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From:         "Larry W. Virden, x2487" <lvirden@cas.org>
Subject:      Re: Random number generator?
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b03adb6a758d7a0@[198.69.37.167]> of Wed, 8 May 1996
              14:40:32 -0500

The Tcl FAQs have several Tcl based Random number generators listed.  Also,
the software catalog has some listed.  And if you are using Tcl 7.5 (has
gnn upgraded yet?) then dynamic extensions can be used, providing folk
with even better options.
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From:         Jonathan Yarden <jyarden@hammer.tool.net>
Subject:      Re: Random number generator?
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b03adb6a758d7a0@[198.69.37.167]> from "Peter M. Jansson"
              at May 8, 96 02:40:32 pm

>
> >From reading the manual, it doesn't appear that Tcl has a random number
> generator available as a standard component; does GNNServer have any
> functions which will allow the generation of random (or pseudo-random)
> numbers?

check here:

http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/tcl_archive/access_package_info.html?package=random

You will need to do a minor bit of tweaking to get it to work on the GNNServer,
and then include it as a startup module.  The C developer's guide will show
you what to do.


Jon Yarden, Maintenance, Internet Tool & Die
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From:         Jeff Gustafson <jeffgus@packardbell.com>
Subject:      Found it?  GNNserver and caching

        As far as I can tell, GNNserver ignores Netscape's
"If-Modified-Since:" header.  Shouldn't GNNserver give back a "304 Use
local copy" or "304 Not modified" message if the cache has the same date
as the file on the server?
        Is GNNserver behind the times?  Or is this a bug?

---
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jeffgus@packardbell.com
Technical Resources Group
Packard Bell Electronics, Inc.
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From:         ACS <hugo@apcom.com>
Subject:      Illustra and sql

Does Illustra's flavor of sql not support concat, ltrim and rtrim functions on
text?

When I try select concat (City, State) from foo;
I cet:
XP0016:Cannot resolve column/function reference 'concat' on arguments of types: (text, text)

Or if I try  select City, LTRIM (City, 'V') from foo;
XP0016:Cannot resolve column/function reference 'LTRIM' on arguments of types: (text, text)

Any ideas?

Hugo
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From:         Kristian Jorg <krjg@befor.se>
Subject:      Re: Illustra module problem

> Hi,
>
> Has anybody had the following Undefined symbol problem when adding the
> nsdb module with illustra on a SUN 4.1.3.
>
> I used ill3.2sun4.tar.Z
>
> [08/May/1996:15:06:58 +0000][10161.0xa60e0] Notice:
> Ns_ModuleLoad(server1):  Loading module:  nsdb.so[08/May/1996:15:06:58
> +0000][10161.0xa60e0] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:  Loading module file:
> /usr/local/intranet/GNNserver/bin/nsdb.so
> [08/May/1996:15:06:58 +0000][10161.0xa60e0] Notice:
> Ns_ModuleLoad(illustra):  Loading module:  nsill.so
> [08/May/1996:15:06:58 +0000][10161.0xa60e0] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:
> Loading module file:  /usr/local/intranet/GNNserver/bin/nsill.so
> ld.so: Undefined symbol: _mi_default_callback

No, this was a new one. I have had a few problems with getting Illustra
up and working. But not this one.

BUT, I had a glance at your nsd.ini file and found the datasource argument
you use: "default:db". I have not found anywhere in the documentation that
the illustra server should be specified as "default". Using the same in my
environment got my illustra connected OK for the first time. Thanx!

If Doug sees this, please add pointers in your documentation to how to specify
a datasource argument. It could also go in the HTML form in NS/Admin etc.

/Kristian
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From:         Joe Dougherty <joed@pfn.com>
Subject:      NaviServer and Illustra LIBMI

I'm trying to use the Illustra LIBMI functions to write to a table.  I'm =
using LIBMI to speed up the insertion of time-critical data.  I can =
connect to the database using the 'mi_open' function with no problem.  =
When I use the 'mi_exec' and 'mi_table_row_insert' functions, however, I =
get this message in my log:

    [12951.0xf] Bug: MiCallback called on an MI_CONNECTION with no =
Ns_DbHandle

The LIBMI functions use a MI_CONNECTION object and don't know anything =
about Ns_DbHandles.  Is this a configuration issue?  Do the NaviServer =
and LIBMI get along? =20

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance,
Joe Dougherty
joed@pfn.com
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From:         Phil Askey <phil@ipso.net>
Organization: The IP Systems Operation
Subject:      Problem with TCL in a directory with permissions

HELP!!  I've got some inline TCL code (ie. a file called 'test.tcl')
which does a simple 'Hello World', if this file is in a non protected
directory it executes perfectly.

However if I put it in a directory with a permission record (ie.
limited by user group) GNNServer doesn't parse the TCL but returns
the source to the browser as type */* (!!)

This is causing huge problems as the system I'm writing for one of
our customers relies on user accounts.

Any ideas ?

Phil
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From:         "Larry W. Virden, x2487" <lvirden@cas.org>
Subject:      Re: Link Errors for Ns_TclEval (which library?)
In-Reply-To:  <MAPI.Id.0016.00616e6b202020203034383330303132@MAPI.to.RFC822> of
              Wed, 8 May 1996 15:36:08 CDT

I don't "know" the answer, but I can speculate.  The most common occurance
of name mangling is the intervention of C++ compiler/linker.  If one had
compiled this Tcl routine with C++, I suspect that one would get the behavior
shown.
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@gnnhost.com>
Subject:      Re: Improvements to the page builder module

At 04:39 PM 5/7/96 -0700, you wrote:
>> In addition, I added a support script which was missing:
>>
>> proc quotesqlvalue {value} {
>>     set value "%${value}%"
>>     regsub -all "'" $value "''" value
>>     return "'$value'"
>> }
>
>Incidentally, 2.1 includes ns_dbquotevalue; appended below.  What's
>the deal with the % signs?

Maybe I should rename the proc, to something like "containsvalue".
I really want this to do a "contains"; that's why the % signs are
included.

--Jeff Rawlings
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From:         "Jason Y. Chiang" <chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      Nested ns_db select problem
In-Reply-To:  <2.2.32.19960509143025.0143a780@mail.gnnhost.com>

I am trying to write a nested SQL SELECT program like:

set row1 [ns_db select $db $sql1]
while { [ns_db getrow $db $row1] } {
    ....
    set row2 [ns_db select $db $sql2]
    ns_db getrow $db $row2
    ....
}

I know it violates the rules according to the book.
Can somebody tell me any tricks or solution?  Thank you.

Jason

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         CyberSurfer Studios
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From:         "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
Subject:      Found Link problem with Ns_TclEval

Ok, I found my problem with Ns_TclEval....

The following lines are missing from nstcl.h:

#ifdef __cplusplus
extern "C" {
#endif

......
......
nstcl.h stuff is here
......
......

#ifdef __cplusplus
}
#endif


I thought the function lived in ns.h which has this code, but alas, was =

wrong.... hope others find this tid-bit useful....


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From:         wells@alexandria.sdc.ucsb.edu
Subject:      Caching problems? Not really

>Date:    Wed, 8 May 1996 14:48:35 -0700
>From:    Jeff Gustafson <jeffgus@packardbell.com>
>Subject: GNN server and browser caching

>        A co-worker pointed out to me that everytime he browses our site
>or the GNN site, all of the graphics and text are reloaded from the server.
>If he browses other sites this doesn't seems to happen because the browser
>has cached the graphics or text.  For some reason GNNserver makes Netscape
>think it always has to reload all of the graphics and text when it doesn't
>need to.  Has anyone else had this same experience?  If this is a real
>problem will it be fixed in the next version of GNN server?

        Well I am running GNNServer on both a Alpha and Solaris setup and have
noticed no caching problems.  In fact, because our server generates pages
dynamically we want the pages to always be reloaded and had to specifically do
some URL mangling to ensure it.  All caching has worked as expected according
the the Netscape Cache options.  Perhaps your friend has his browser set to
"Every Time" or perhaps those other pages and graphics fill his cache first.
Just thought I would mention I have had no indication of such a problem.

-Alex Wells
 Alexandria Digital Library
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From:         Rick Adams <adamsr@dmci.net>
Subject:      BBS or Message base programs (follow-up)

        Many thanks to those who were kind enough to respond to my request
for information on bbs/conferencing systems.

        After examining the many options suggested by participants, I ended
up implementing the net.thread system from Net.Genesis
(http://www.netgen.com) which seemed to meet my needs perfectly and had the
added advantage of being available free of charge (in the
previous--1.2--release).

        The system integrated without a hitch (something many public domain
and shareware cgi-bin applications aren't terribly successful at) and over
the last few days I've been able to create the core of a very solid
messaging system, with 12 distinct groups consisting of a total of 52
different conferences (some public, some private, some moderated, all
threaded) already in place and more to come.  Needless to say, I can
recommend this product _very_ highly to others interested in conferencing
systems--and I plan to upgrade to the new (2.0) version in the near future.

        Thanks again for the support and assistance everyone!

        Rick Adams
        Webmaster
        Activism Online (http://b73.dmci.net)
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From:         "Peter M. Jansson" <petej@clickvision.com>
Subject:      Locked files

Running GNNServer 2.03 (or so) on NT 3.51, I wrote a Tcl script to modify
some HTML on the fly, and the script had an error which I didn't catch, so
the HTML file didn't get closed.  Now I can't make changes to the HTML
template; I get an error in GNNPress asking me to save the file to another
location, and I get the following in the GNNServer logs:

09/May/1996:14:16:57 -0500][126.63] Error: Could not remove
d:/NaviSoft/Server/servers/real/pages/admin/ra_info.htm:  Permission denied

Restarting the GNNServer (which, BTW, shows up as Naviserver in the server
manager) won't release the file.  The only way I can release the file is to
completely reboot the server.

Is there a way to close the file without rebooting?  Why doesn't restarting
GNNServer close all open files?

Thanks,
    Pete.

-------------
Peter M. Jansson                             petej@clickvision.com
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From:         Jeff Gustafson <jeffgus@packardbell.com>
Subject:      Re: Caching problems? Not really
In-Reply-To:  <9605091650.AA00885@alexandria.sdc.ucsb.edu>

On Thu, 9 May 1996 wells@alexandria.sdc.ucsb.edu wrote:

> >Date:    Wed, 8 May 1996 14:48:35 -0700
> >From:    Jeff Gustafson <jeffgus@packardbell.com>
> >Subject: GNN server and browser caching
>
> >        A co-worker pointed out to me that everytime he browses our site
> >or the GNN site, all of the graphics and text are reloaded from the server.
> >If he browses other sites this doesn't seems to happen because the browser
> >has cached the graphics or text.  For some reason GNNserver makes Netscape
> >think it always has to reload all of the graphics and text when it doesn't
> >need to.  Has anyone else had this same experience?  If this is a real
> >problem will it be fixed in the next version of GNN server?
>
>         Well I am running GNNServer on both a Alpha and Solaris setup and have
> noticed no caching problems.  In fact, because our server generates pages
> dynamically we want the pages to always be reloaded and had to specifically do
> some URL mangling to ensure it.  All caching has worked as expected according
> the the Netscape Cache options.  Perhaps your friend has his browser set to
> "Every Time" or perhaps those other pages and graphics fill his cache first.
> Just thought I would mention I have had no indication of such a problem.

        Are you sure?  I didn't notice the caching problem because I
always access our web site through the ethernet or T1.  It wasn't until a
co-worker tried it on a 14.4kbps connection that I found this problem.  It
seems that I'm having trouble specifically with graphics.  Netscape wants
to rely on the caching more when it comes to graphics.  I used a packet
sniffer to see what was really going on and GNNserver is not noticing the
'If-Modified-Since:' header that Netscape sends.  GNNServer resends the
graphics no matter what time the 'If-Modified-Since' header sends.

>
> -Alex Wells
>  Alexandria Digital Library
>

Jeffrey Gustafson
jeffgus@packardbell.com
Technical Resources Group
Packard Bell Electronics, Inc.
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Date:         Thu, 9 May 1996 14:49:08 +0000
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From:         Don Bellamy <don@webcenter.net>
Organization: WebCenter Internet Services, Inc.
Subject:      Access Restriction

Hello!

I want to know if the following is possible.  I have a virtual server
setup with its own domain.  Another company's web site is placing
links to my site.  Is there a way to block access to people who try
to access my site through those links?

I tried experimenting with GNN's permissions, but couldn't figure out
if there was a way to do it.  If there is a way to do this, I would
really like to find out how.

Thanks, and have a great evening!
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From:         Robert Roy <robroy@pobox.com>
Subject:      Objective Comments Wanted

Hi all,
I am currently planning a web-based business and need to decide on a server.
From a features and specifications point of view GNN looks perfect, but I
need some objective comments from users before I start committing time and
energy to development. My server is mission-critical and needs to be
reliable, fast and versatile.

I would be grateful to hear your feedback on:

1) General "ease of use", including setup, configuration, on-going maintenance.

2) General reliability, stability and "bugginess"

3) Quality of documentation and support,

4) Speed of server.

5) Speed of database.

6) Comparison to other popular servers in your experience, eg Netscape,
Microsoft. Is GNN faster, slower, easier, harder, better features etc etc.

7) Learning curve for programmer with 20yrs general experience (C++,
Windows) but new to Internet and server apps.

8) Any other comments you may have.

Many thanks for any info you may have.

Regards
Rob
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From:         Chris Cline <slonline@usa.pipeline.com>
Subject:      Directory Mapping Follow-Up

A couple of weeks ago I posted a question I had about directory mapping.
(It was posted in the digest of 4/24.  The initial reply was in the digest
of 4/25.)  To refresh your memory, I am trying to use Macromedia BackStage
to access ODBC databases.  BackStage requires ibbin & ibimages to be mapped
to a bin & images directory within the BackStage sub-directory to work.
Below is a section of my log file:

[09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  GET /cgi-bin ->
c:/inet/gnn/server/bin
[09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  POST /cgi-bin ->
c:/inet/gnn/server/bin
[09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  GET /ibbin ->
c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin
[09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  POST /ibbin ->
c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin
[09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  GET /ibimages ->
c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/images
[09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  POST /ibimages ->
c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/images
[09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: SockStart(server1, nssock):
Listening on:  http://200.0.0.2
[09/May/1996:12:24:32 -0400][199.239] Error: Invalid CGI URL /ibimages;
mapping /ibimages -> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/images requires a
script file within the URL.
[09/May/1996:12:24:42 -0400][199.239] Error: Invalid CGI URL /ibbin;
mapping /ibbin -> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin requires a script
file within the URL.
[09/May/1996:12:26:13 -0400][199.239] Error: Invalid CGI URL /ibbin;
mapping /ibbin -> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin requires a script
file within the URL.
[09/May/1996:12:27:28 -0400][199.164] Error: Invalid CGI URL /ibimages;
mapping /ibimages -> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/images requires a
script file within the URL.

I have no idea what 'script file' I need.  Also, is there a section of
set-up where "plain" directory mapping can be done, as opposed to CGI
mapping.  According to the FrontPage documentation, the images directory
should use "plain" directory mapping, while the bin directory should be
mapped using CGI mapping.  Again, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris
slonline@usa.pipeline.com
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From:         gnat <gnat@aol.net>
Subject:      Re: Access Restriction
Comments: To: Don Bellamy <don@webcenter.net>
In-Reply-To:  <199605092149.RAA13157@vixa.voyager.net>

On Thu, 9 May 1996, Don Bellamy wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I want to know if the following is possible.  I have a virtual server
> setup with its own domain.  Another company's web site is placing
> links to my site.  Is there a way to block access to people who try
> to access my site through those links?
>
> I tried experimenting with GNN's permissions, but couldn't figure out
> if there was a way to do it.  If there is a way to do this, I would
> really like to find out how.

You could register a servertrace module that checked the referer data
against a list of URLs you didn't want to link to your site and return them
a response if they are, or let the server return the page if they are not
coming from a URL in your list.

David Whittle
Internet Systems Developer
Digital City
(P) (703) 918-2465
(F) (703) 917-1207
(E) gnat@aol.net
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From:         "Peter M. Jansson" <petej@clickvision.com>
Subject:      Re: Nested ns_db select problem

>I am trying to write a nested SQL SELECT program like:
>
>set row1 [ns_db select $db $sql1]
>while { [ns_db getrow $db $row1] } {
>    ....
>    set row2 [ns_db select $db $sql2]
>    ns_db getrow $db $row2
>    ....
>}

Can you accomplish what you want with a join?  If, for example, you have a
master/detail situation, like orders in one table and line items in another
table where the line items contain a reference to the order, you can do
something like

set row1 [ns_db select $db "select o.orderkey, o.ordername,
    t.lineitemnumber, t.lineitemdescription
    from orders o, lineitems t
    where
   o.orderkey = t.orderkey"]  <== orderkey has to appear in both tables

Then, the number of rows you'll get back is one per line item, with each
row having the order information as well as the specific line item info.

If the amount of information in the master record (orders in this case) is
large, you need to keep an eye on performance.

Pete.

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Peter M. Jansson                             petej@clickvision.com
Click Interactive Visions, LLC.                     (410) 488-3690
Interactive WWW development services.
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From:         Christof Schmidbauer <jwgi@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de>
Organization: Ferengi Institute for Business Ethics
Subject:      Re: Objective Comments Wanted

On 10 May 96 at 10:46, Robert Roy wrote:

You did not mention the OS, you want GNN to run on. Judging from the
inclusion of the Microsoft in your list of alternatives, it seems that
your focus is on MS Windows NT.

We are running four Webservers: Two Unix-based (UIX and Solaris) and
two NT-based servers. The Unix machines run the CERN-HTTPD, we run
the GNNserver on one of the NT-boxes, the other one runs the Oracle
Webserver 1.0.


I used Netscapes Communication and Commerce Server (1.1) under NT
Server 3.51 with disappointing results. The daemons proved to be slow
and unreliable. We experienced some severe crashes and had to reboot
occasionaly the server. Netscape released several patches, but I
gave up after 3 months of trouble. A plus for the Netscape Servers
is the remote administration through forms. Even the HTTPD can be
restartet from the form, although this feature did not work to well.
Sometimes the server did hang and we had to restart it through the
control panel. Running perl-scripts was something Netscape didn4t
think of. Netscapes recommendation at this time how to run a script
openened a big security leak.

After a month using the SAIC-HTTP, which was very reliable and fast I
moved to the MS IIS. The daemon is very fast, but part of the speed
results from the fact, that MS does not allow a remote DNS. You have
to run a separate programm to get the machine names in the
access-log. The log is in a non-standard format and you need to
convert it a standard log-file. MS IIS does not allow remote
administration through forms. It lacks many basic features like
redirecting. There are third party dll4s which make use of ISAPI to
add the lackings features to MS IIS. The server-extension I used were
reliable and fast. No problems so far with MS IIS, but I did not
like the Interface and it wasn4t to versatile, at least if you don4t
like to add missing features through dll4s.

Next I tried GNNserver and after applying the 2.301 patch I got
hooked on this server. It is fast even with reverse-domain-resolving
enabled. It is reliable, no downtimes so far. Runs perl-scripts like
a charm, without introducing a security leak to the server.
Administering the server and editing web-pages trough GNNpress is a
great help in maintining the website. And the price tag is right. ;-)

I will start exploring Illustra and the Tcl-Interpreter in the near
future. GNNServer will propably replace our CERN HTTPD4s on our Unix
boxes. I cannot comment on the C-Interface to the GNNserver.

> Hi all,
[...]
> 6) Comparison to other popular servers in your experience, eg
> Netscape, Microsoft. Is GNN faster, slower, easier, harder, better
> features etc etc.
[...]
Christof Schmidbauer jwgi@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de
@ Vereinigung Technischer Analysten Deutschlands e.V.
http://caladan.wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de/VTAD/
@ Accelcom
http://www.accelcom.de/
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Incompatibilities between MS C++ and Borland C++
Comments: cc: jimbo@navisoft.com
In-Reply-To:  <199605070224.WAA01648@atlanta.com> (tripower@sonline.com)

>>>>> "Craig" == R Craig Porter <tripower@sonline.com> writes:

    Craig> Hello, I sent email a couple of days ago about unresolved
    Craig> externals when compling with Borland's C++ 5.0.  I've
    Craig> discovered the problem.  I need verification and a
    Craig> solution. The problem is that MS C++ compiles into COFF
    Craig> format, but Borland's .OBJ files are compiled into AMF
    Craig> format. The two incompatibilities cause numerous headaches
    Craig> when trying to translate from one to the other. First, the
    Craig> externals in the NSD.LIB file are created as "NS_xxxxxx",
    Craig> but Borland expects to see them as "_NS_xxxx".  So, my two
    Craig> questions are.

    Craig> 1).  For verification, is the NSD.LIB and other .LIBs in
    Craig> \BIN compiled under Microsoft C++?

Yes, we used Microsoft C++ 2.2 to create those .LIB files.

    Craig> 2).  If so, has anyone run into the problem before?  It
    Craig> would seem common, given the popularity of the two
    Craig> development platforms.

It's the first I've heard of someone using Borland to build GNNserver
modules.

    Craig> I've talked with Borland support (at $2.00 per minute!) and
    Craig> the best they can tell me is to obtain the source code from
    Craig> you and recompile all of the libraries.  I've taken the
    Craig> NSD.DLL file and imported it into a .LIB file, but this
    Craig> isn't a workable solution. Do you have any suggestions???
    Craig> I guess if I could get the source code for the LIBs, I
    Craig> could re-compile them all, but there has to be a better
    Craig> way.

I'm afraid we're not planning on recompiling everything with Borland
and we're unwilling to give you the source to do it!  I guess you
don't want to just switch to Microsoft?  At least for this
development?

doug

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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Searching for Numbers
In-Reply-To:  <n1380577842.67601@qmsmtp.mts.com> (message from Ted Goessling on
              Wed, 8 May 1996 08:30:03 U)

>>>>> "Ted" == Ted Goessling <ted.goessling@mts.com> writes:

    Ted> Subject: Searching for Numbers Date:5/8/96 Time: 8:06 AM The
    Ted> GNNserver documentation says:

    >> Note that when you search for pages by qualifying on specific
    >> keywords, you must search for "meaningful" search words, words
    >> that would appear as index words for the page. If you search
    >> only for "noise" words, such as "the" or "a" or numbers, you
    >> will receive an error message.

    Ted> Three questions about searching:
    Ted> --------------------------------

    Ted> 1) Is there any way to control the behavior of Illustra or
    Ted> the search script to change what is considered meaningful
    Ted> and/or noise?  We frequently refer to the products at our
    Ted> site by number.  Thus we want users to be able to search for
    Ted> things like "244.43" or "329".  I looked into the Illustra
    Ted> "stopwords" file, but didn't see any numbers that I could
    Ted> mess with.  Please tell me there's a way to do this.  It
    Ted> could be a real show stopper if there isn't!

Right now, numbers are not indexed; they usually make for poor search
terms.  We'll try to add the ability to turn off this "feature" in the
upcoming 2.1 release.

    Ted> 2) I've figured out how to restrict searches to certain areas
    Ted> of the server (and it's an excellent feature!).  But is there
    Ted> a way to add new doc types to what is searched (like .txt
    Ted> files)?  Right now it only searches .html files.

This one at least you can fix yourself by editing the code in
modules/tcl/nstext/sync.tcl.  Just replace the following:

proc gethtmlfiles {dir} {
    getallfiles $dir {\.htm$|\.html$}
}

with the following:

proc gethtmlfiles {dir} {
    getallfiles $dir {\.htm$|\.html$|\.txt}
}

Go to /NS/TclInit/nstext and then resynchronize your pages from
/NS/Text/Admin.

    Ted> 3) Following on question 2, is there a way to mark certain
    Ted> directories and/or files as NOT searchable?  We want users to
    Ted> be able to search the whole server, but sometimes we need to
    Ted> temporarily protect certain directories from searching while
    Ted> they are under construction.

This is a really useful and requested feature that again, isn't in 2.0
that we'll try to get into 2.1.

doug

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Date:         Fri, 10 May 1996 23:34:55 -0400
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From:         Shawn Mathews <us019327@interramp.com>
Subject:      Unexpected Heap Error

Does anyone know what causes an unexpected heap error while using
Gnnserver?

This is getting pretty frustrating. Any help would be appreciated.


Shawn Mathews
us019327@Interramp.com
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From:         "Larry W. Virden, x2487" <lvirden@cas.org>
Subject:      Re: Locked files
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b00adb8061c5d62@[198.69.37.167]> of Thu, 9 May 1996
              15:35:27 -0500

Unix has different kinds of locking - most locks do not get opened when
a job ends - in some cases, the locks don't get unlocked with a reboot.

I don't know which kind of locking you are encountering.
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Date:         Sat, 11 May 1996 11:13:48 +0100
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From:         Cass Tyson <ctyson@netsmarts.com>
Subject:      Re: user map dir and alias.dll

Let me ask this in a different way: Is anyone using the:
    www.server.com/~username
                   ^^^^^^^^^      function of GNNserver on NT? If so, can
you tell me where, exactly, this maps to? And better yet, how to change
that mapping? Thanks.


>Please help!
>
>I'm unclear how usermapdir and alias.dll work. I'm running GNNserver on NT.
>
>Usermapdir is supposed to be: "The subdirectory under the user's home
>directory in which to search for files when a  URL containing ~username is
>specified. If blank (the default), ~username URLs will not  be mapped to
>user directories."
>
>OK. I set the usermap dir to www and restart the server. I create a user
>called newuser under myserver. When I do this I check the box that says
>"create a directory". I end up with
>
>server/servers/myserver/pages/users/n/newuser/index.htm
>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ all new
>
>I then create a directory called www under the newuser directory, and move
>the index.htm into it, thusly:
>
>server/servers/myserver/pages/users/n/newuser/www/index.htm
>
>I then call www.myserver.com/~newuser and get "Not Found". Error log says
>"unknown user". Hmmmm...
>
>I thought perhaps alias.dll would do the trick, so I undid the above and
>installed the alias module. It seems to work--the startup log reports it
>loads fine. Basically, tho, I get the same result as above.
>
>The alias.dll code gives the following example setting, which seems closest
>to the function of usermapdir:
>
>     *    /~=~/pages        ;/~foot -> /home/foot/pages
>     *                      ;OR /~foot/section -> /home/foot/pages/section
>
>Perhaps the question is, how do I set the "/home" piece of the pie? I
>really want it to be a different directory anyway, and I don't want the
>"initial" subdirectory structure. Ie, I want the physical directory really
>to be:
>
>server/servers/myserver/pages/members/newuser
>
>Anyone gone through this yet?  Thanks
>
>Cass Tyson
>NetSmarts EPS Inc.
>ctyson@netsmarts.com

Cass Tyson
NetSmarts EPS Inc.
ctyson@netsmarts.com
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From:         Cass Tyson <ctyson@netsmarts.com>
Subject:      Re: Wherefore art thou assets dir?

Still grasping at straws WRT the /ns/assets directory. The individual
servers' assets dirs seem to be overridden by the main one. That is,
/navisoft/server/assets is where all virtual servers look, rather than
/navisoft/server/servers/vserver/assets which is where I'd expect them to look.

Please help!


>Can someone please 'splain to me about the "About Assets" setup? I want to
>return a different graphic at the top of directory listings. When I view
>source of a dir listing, I see that the graphic wants to be
>/ns/assets/notice.gif. I changed the Assets directory to be /graphics, and
>I put a notice.gif there.
>
>Question 1: Why does the code for a dir listing _still_ show that graphic
>to be /ns/assets/notice.gif when I've changed the assets dir to /graphics?
>(Obviously it shows up now as a broken graphic.)
>
>Setup module says:
>
>About Assets                   Directory where graphics files to be
>                               included in pages are stored. By
>                               default, GNNserver looks in the
>                               /servers/server/modules/assets
>                               directory first, and if that doesn't
>                               exist, the /assets directory.
>
>Assets:                        /graphics
>
>The doc says:
>
>NT:   \servers\server\modules\assets   Directory where graphics files to be
>                                       included in pages are stored.
>
>(This is one case where the built-in help in the server is more help than
>the documentation!)
>
>I've tried putting a notice.gif in:
>
>/server/servers/vserver/pages/graphics   (first and logical ? choice)
>/server/servers/vserver/modules/assets/graphics
>/server/servers/vserver/modules/assets/
>/server/servers/vserver/modules/graphics
>/server/servers/vserver/graphics/
>
>But none work. IOW, I've successfully switched away from the default, which
>is    /server/assets  (apparently contrary to what the doc says), but now I
>can't figure out where it's looking.
>
>Question 2 (which would nullify Question 1):  How can I change the name of
>the graphic or redirect to a template? I can't find an answer to this
>anywhere. (I like the way you can redirect internal errors, URL not found,
>etc, to specific files, and I've done that successfully.)
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Cass Tyson
>NetSmarts EPS Inc.
>ctyson@netsmarts.com

Cass Tyson
NetSmarts EPS Inc.
ctyson@netsmarts.com
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Date:         Sat, 11 May 1996 13:54:37 -0400
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From:         James Robert Hartman <fishybox@connix.com>
Subject:      Urgent Database Help

Hi folks! I need help with the following problem, and if anyone can be =
of assistance, please get in touch.

I am currently developing an automotive web site that auto dealerships =
will be able to subscribe to. As part of the subscription, the =
dealerships will have their used cars in a searchable database, to be =
updated daily. Users of the "Internet Autocenter" system will then be =
able to go to an HTML form, and locate the cars that interest them by =
inputting criteria, such as Brand name, model name, year, location, etc. =
 into the from.
I upgraded to the Naviservice Commercial service so that I could take =
advantage of the system's database capabilities. Just to note, I am =
currently running on version 1.01 (I am pretty sure), but definitely not =
version 2. I made a table in the database, and an HTML form, and =
everything seems to work. But, there are major problems in the ease of =
use/convenience/update categories.=20

First of all, I will be getting used car inventory listings every day. =
Of course, many of the used car entries that go into the database will =
eventually have to be removed because they will no longer be offered. I =
asked a Naviservice technician, and he told me that I would have to =
delete the entire table in order to delete just one listing. I think =
that sounds absolutely absurd, and I would like that to be verified. If =
it is not true, and a database entry CAN be removed easily, please tell =
me how.

Secondly, is there any way to use Microsoft Access or other database =
application to make a database on my end, export it to a compatible =
format, and upload it to my website? That would be ultimate in =
convenience. If you know if this is feasible now, feasible later, or =
feasible on another hosting service, please help me out.

Thirdly, what does Naviservice version 2 offer me in terms of this =
search system? Since I think it may require a lengthy answer, and I am =
definitely already asking a lot out of you folks, can you refer me to a =
URL or something? And when will servers be updated (I have heard that it =
may be up to 90 days!)

Fourthly, if I am totally off base, and there is another way to =
implement my used car database system (C code, .tcl script, another web =
presence provider, etc.), please tell me.

My website is at http://www.inetlink.com. Thanks for listening!

James Hartman
InternetLink Services
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From:         "Brett M. Hays" <bhays@hsonline.net>
Subject:      2.0b5 on Linux?

I saw some messages in the list archive relating to beta 5 for Linux, all
I have been able to locate is 2.04 on the site.  Is this available on-line
somewhere? Thanks for any pointers

___________________________________________________________
Brett M. Hays, Esq.      President, Hoosier On-Line Systems
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Date:         Sat, 11 May 1996 18:04:37 -0500
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From:         "Brett M. Hays" <bhays@hsonline.net>
Subject:      segmentation fault under Linux

After many hours, we have been unable to get gnnserver 2.04 to run under
Linux, this is the first version we have tried gs204linux.tar, in other
words, we did not upgrade from 2.03, is something missing in the new
archive? Running nsbootstrap gets no error message, nothing and any
attempt to run nsd on it's own gets a segmentation fault.

Here are the vital stats.
Linux Slackware 2.0, kernel 1.2.13 ELF
Pentium 133, 32 MB Ram
installed in /usr/local/gnnserver (home= set to match this)
(also tried /home/ns to no avail)

we do not get the libpthread.so missing error I have read about in the
list archives but it will simply not run. We did create an nsadmin user
and all, and that user's home dir is set to /usr/local/gnnserver. Any
ideas, this stuff looks great but we just CANNOT seem to get it to run.

___________________________________________________________
Brett M. Hays, Esq.      President, Hoosier On-Line Systems
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 10:28:17 -0500
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From:         Ashish Parikh <ashish@Savantage.Com>
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Sat, 11 May 1996 13:54:37 EDT."
              <01BB3F41.BEB0C2E0@fishybox.connix.com>

fishybox@connix.com said:
> First of all, I will be getting used car inventory listings every
> day. Of course, many of the used car entries that go into the
> database will eventually have to be removed because they will no
> longer be offered. I asked a Naviservice technician, and he told me
> that I would have to delete the entire table in order to delete just
> one listing. I think that sounds absolutely absurd, and I would like
> that to be verified. If it is not true, and a database entry CAN be
> removed easily, please tell me how.
If you know exactly what you are deleting (i.e you know their unique
identifiers), then you can just delete them one by one. The new version of
GNNserver has an interface which allows you to "source" a sql file. You can
create/generate the sql to delete the items in a file and then just source the
sql file.

> Secondly, is there any way to use Microsoft Access or other database
> application to make a database on my end, export it to a compatible
> format, and upload it to my website? That would be ultimate in
> convenience. If you know if this is feasible now, feasible later, or
> feasible on another hosting service, please help me out.
The new version of GNNserver will easily enable something like this.

> Thirdly, what does Naviservice version 2 offer me in terms of this
> search system? Since I think it may require a lengthy answer, and I
> am definitely already asking a lot out of you folks, can you refer me
> to a URL or something? And when will servers be updated (I have heard
http://www.tools.gnn.com/server/feature.htm#text
> that it may be up to 90 days!)

Ashish
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 13:10:23 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@gnnhost.com>
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help

At 01:54 PM 5/11/96 -0400, you wrote:

>First of all, I will be getting used car inventory listings every day. Of
course, many of the used car entries that go into the database will
eventually have to be removed because they will no longer be offered. I
asked a Naviservice technician, and he told me that I would have to delete
the entire table in order to delete just one listing. I think that sounds
absolutely absurd, and I would like that to be verified. If it is not true,
and a database entry CAN be removed easily, please tell me how.
>

You're right, that would be absurd. Luckily, you can easily delete rows from
your table, with a couple of methods. The simplest is to use the built-in
search and update forms that come with the server. Here's how:
        1) Create your table and input some data.
        2) When you want to delete a row, do a search that will find the row.
           You can begin a search of your table at the /NS/Admin page.
        3) In the search return page, click on the number that links to the
           update form for your row. Scroll to the bottom and click "Delete
           Row."

If you want to delete many rows, you can also do it with the General SQL
Query Form (available at http://www.gnnhost.com/develop/code/index.htm).
With this method, you would enter a SQL statement to be executed on your
database.

>Secondly, is there any way to use Microsoft Access or other database
application to make a database on my end, export it to a compatible format,
and upload it to my website? That would be ultimate in convenience. If you
know if this is feasible now, feasible later, or feasible on another hosting
service, please help me out.
>

You can do this now on GNN Hosting Service. Just call technical support
(800.879.6882 then hit 3) and tell them what you need to do.

>Thirdly, what does Naviservice version 2 offer me in terms of this search
system? Since I think it may require a lengthy answer, and I am definitely
already asking a lot out of you folks, can you refer me to a URL or
something? And when will servers be updated (I have heard that it may be up
to 90 days!)
>

Well, there are the built-in search and update forms, but you will probably
want to write your own to control the format. See below for sample code.
(The server upgrade for the Hosting Service is being finalized now; you will
be contacted very soon.)

>Fourthly, if I am totally off base, and there is another way to implement
my used car database system (C code, .tcl script, another web presence
provider, etc.), please tell me.
>

I don't think you're off base at all. You will probably need to write some
Tcl for your dynamic pages (based on user search of the database); you can
use the dynamic page module as sample code, and build off it for your
particular application. The module is at:
        http://www.gnnhost.com/develop/code/index.htm

Cheers,
Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
Moderator, gnnhost-l and gnndeveloper-l
For inquiries about Web Hosting, send email to <info@gnnhost.com>
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 12:59:27 -0500
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From:         "Peter M. Jansson" <petej@clickvision.com>
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help

>If it is not true, and a database entry CAN be removed easily,
>please tell me how.
Using the database administration forms, you can delete a record.  If you
need to use nsql, you can always remove a record from a table using "delete
from some_table where some_field = 'some_value'".  Either you get the idea,
or you need SQL help.

This assumes that the "entries" are a single db record, which is unlikely
to be true.  If your db structure is more complex, you should probably
write your own removal script in Tcl, and front it with your own HTML form.
Still, it's not hard, and far from impossible.

>Secondly, is there any way ... export it to a compatible format,
>and upload it to my website?
If you can use the micopy command from within nsql, you could upload a
comma-delimited file.  No problem.

Nsql is a tool that you can run in the NT or Unix environment, that comes
with the GNNServer distribution.  As for hooking up Access directly, I
don't know; perhaps someone else can say whether the version of Illustra
that comes with GNNServer allows ODBC access?

Pete.

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Peter M. Jansson                             petej@clickvision.com
Click Interactive Visions, LLC.                     (410) 488-3690
Interactive WWW development services.
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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 02:31:34 +1000
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From:         Alex Fields <alex@latte.net>
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help

In all actuality, for the price of a package such as ColdFusion, DBWeb, or
CGI Perform (CF & DBW - around $500, CGI about $150) and using any old web
server you can do the functionality you are asking for.

CF is at www.allaire.com, DBWeb I'm not sure, you could do a search.  Same
with CGI Perform (CGI Perform looks like the most bang for the buck, but it
is not as feature rich)

alex


>Hi folks! I need help with the following problem, and if anyone can be of
>assistance, please get in touch.
>
>I am currently developing an automotive web site that auto dealerships
>will be able to subscribe to. As part of the subscription, the dealerships
>will have their used cars in a searchable database, to be updated daily.
>Users of the "Internet Autocenter" system will then be able to go to an
>HTML form, and locate the cars that interest them by inputting criteria,
>such as Brand name, model name, year, location, etc.  into the from.
>I upgraded to the Naviservice Commercial service so that I could take
>advantage of the system's database capabilities. Just to note, I am
>currently running on version 1.01 (I am pretty sure), but definitely not
>version 2. I made a table in the database, and an HTML form, and
>everything seems to work. But, there are major problems in the ease of
>use/convenience/update categories.
>
>First of all, I will be getting used car inventory listings every day. Of
>course, many of the used car entries that go into the database will
>eventually have to be removed because they will no longer be offered. I
>asked a Naviservice technician, and he told me that I would have to delete
>the entire table in order to delete just one listing. I think that sounds
>absolutely absurd, and I would like that to be verified. If it is not
>true, and a database entry CAN be removed easily, please tell me how.
>
>Secondly, is there any way to use Microsoft Access or other database
>application to make a database on my end, export it to a compatible
>format, and upload it to my website? That would be ultimate in
>convenience. If you know if this is feasible now, feasible later, or
>feasible on another hosting service, please help me out.
>
>Thirdly, what does Naviservice version 2 offer me in terms of this search
>system? Since I think it may require a lengthy answer, and I am definitely
>already asking a lot out of you folks, can you refer me to a URL or
>something? And when will servers be updated (I have heard that it may be
>up to 90 days!)
>
>Fourthly, if I am totally off base, and there is another way to implement
>my used car database system (C code, .tcl script, another web presence
>provider, etc.), please tell me.
>
>My website is at http://www.inetlink.com. Thanks for listening!
>
>James Hartman
>InternetLink Services

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* alex@latte.net           * looking fabulous *
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 16:07:38 -0400
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From:         Ben Bloch <benb@intrsft.com>
Subject:      java client/GNN server

Anyone have any experience/expertise connecting java clients to GNN server.
Want to avoid writing server daemon and possibly use java odbc drivers.
Need to be able to save data inputed through java applet, either in database
or as flat files of various formats.

Also, any experience in the reverse, exporting from GNN database to java applet.

Will hire expertise if can find it.

Thanks.
----------------------
Ben Bloch
Intersoft Systems
203 363-2134
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 14:34:54 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: user map dir and alias.dll
In-Reply-To:  <v02120d02adb657460c8b@[198.69.33.67]> (message from Cass Tyson
              on Wed, 8 May 1996 16:04:24 +0100)

> Usermapdir is supposed to be: "The subdirectory under the user's home
> directory in which to search for files when a  URL containing ~username is
> specified. If blank (the default), ~username URLs will not  be mapped to
> user directories."

This Usermapdir feature only exists for Unix, and it maps ~user URL's
to subdirectories under the user's actual Unix home directory.  It's
really only there for compatibility with other web servers, and has
nothing to do with the users you add through the Access Control module
or the directories that are created for them.

> OK. I set the usermap dir to www and restart the server. I create a user
> called newuser under myserver. When I do this I check the box that says
> "create a directory". I end up with
>
> server/servers/myserver/pages/users/n/newuser/index.htm
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ all new
>
> I then create a directory called www under the newuser directory, and move
> the index.htm into it, thusly:
>
> server/servers/myserver/pages/users/n/newuser/www/index.htm
>
> I then call www.myserver.com/~newuser and get "Not Found". Error log says
> "unknown user". Hmmmm...

Yup, there's no mapping going on.

> I thought perhaps alias.dll would do the trick, so I undid the above and
> installed the alias module. It seems to work--the startup log reports it
> loads fine. Basically, tho, I get the same result as above.

> The alias.dll code gives the following example setting, which seems closest
> to the function of usermapdir:
>
>      *    /~=~/pages        ;/~foot -> /home/foot/pages
>      *                      ;OR /~foot/section -> /home/foot/pages/section
>
> Perhaps the question is, how do I set the "/home" piece of the pie? I
> really want it to be a different directory anyway, and I don't want the
> "initial" subdirectory structure. Ie, I want the physical directory really
> to be:
>
> server/servers/myserver/pages/members/newuser

To change the physical directory that is created, you'll need to edit
the modules/nsperm/users.tcl file -- it's actually not that bad a
change; just replace the following:

    if $createhome {
        set userdir [UserDir]
        set subdir [string index $user 0]
        set userurl /$userdir/$subdir/$user

        set dir [ns_info pageroot]/$userdir
        catch {ns_mkdir $dir}
        append dir /$subdir
        catch {ns_mkdir $dir}
        append dir /$user
        catch {ns_mkdir $dir}

with the following:

    if $createhome {
        set userdir "members"
        set userurl /$userdir/$user

        set dir [ns_info pageroot]/$userdir
        catch {ns_mkdir $dir}
        append dir /$user
        catch {ns_mkdir $dir}

If you want ~<user> to map to the physical <pageroot>/members/<user>,
then you'll need to use the alias module and add an entry for each
user.  I advise making the above code change and not worrying about
the ~ mapping.

Hope this clears things up!

doug

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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 14:52:21 -0900
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From:         "Wong, Douglas L.-Internet" <dwong@pacent.com>
Organization: Southern California Gas Company   213-244-1200
Subject:      Password Variables

Quick questions, what global variables are used when one enters a Username
and Password in the standard authentication screen! I'm looking to capture
this and verify this with a field within an Illustra table.
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 14:48:01 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Locked files
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b00adb8061c5d62@[198.69.37.167]> (petej@clickvision.com)

>>>>> "Peter" == Peter M Jansson <petej@clickvision.com> writes:

    Peter> Running GNNServer 2.03 (or so) on NT 3.51, I wrote a Tcl
    Peter> script to modify some HTML on the fly, and the script had
    Peter> an error which I didn't catch, so the HTML file didn't get
    Peter> closed.  Now I can't make changes to the HTML template; I
    Peter> get an error in GNNPress asking me to save the file to
    Peter> another location, and I get the following in the GNNServer
    Peter> logs:

    Peter> 09/May/1996:14:16:57 -0500][126.63] Error: Could not remove
    Peter> d:/NaviSoft/Server/servers/real/pages/admin/ra_info.htm:
    Peter> Permission denied

    Peter> Restarting the GNNServer (which, BTW, shows up as
    Peter> Naviserver in the server manager) won't release the file.
    Peter> The only way I can release the file is to completely reboot
    Peter> the server.

    Peter> Is there a way to close the file without rebooting?
    Peter> Why doesn't restarting GNNServer close all open files?

You're pretty much out of luck right now; NT likes to lock open files
persistently.  The good news is the next release of GNNserver will by
default close all the files you opened during a Tcl script when the
script is over.  Thus stopping you from hanging yourself.

doug

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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 23:18:12 -0400
Reply-To:     philg@mit.edu
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From:         Philip Greenspun <philg@hearstnewmedia.com>
Subject:      has anyone out there gotten SSL to work with NaviServer 2.0?

I've been getting crushed by NaviServer 2.0's refusal to accept my
key/certificate pairs.  First I tried using the software to convert an
existing key/cert pair from Netscape format.  That didn't work.  So I
generated a whole new private key with the Setup pages and sent off to
Verisign for a new certificate.

I got back something that looks like

- -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
MIICVDCCAcECBQJ4AAQWMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAgUAMF8xCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMSAw
...
pH3sCVhuqpct9pBR0+rRpGbGHbZy5kL0
- -----END CERTIFICATE-----

But our NaviServer chokes on it...

[13/May/1996:23:00:45 -0400][14921.0x4] Notice: **SSL: Generating initial random seed...
[13/May/1996:23:00:46 -0400][14921.0x4] Notice: **SSL: Seed generation complete.
[13/May/1996:23:00:47 -0400][14921.0x4] Error: SSL: Unable fetch server certificate.

(this is not just a "file not found" or "file not readable" error).

Anyone else had this problem?  Is there a fix?  Anyone have a known good
key/cert pair that they aren't using and would be willing to share?

I'm desperate.  This is been going on for months and people are starting
to call me a pinhead.

Thanks,

Philip
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 17:35:56 CDT
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From:         "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
Subject:      Initial Config with GNN (fresh install)

Greets-

I have been working with a copy of GNN that was upgraded (incrementally,
all the way from NaviServer 1.0).

I needed to get a non-production machine running to test some of my DB
apps, so I installed GNN on my machine (using the latest release from
GNN)...  I followed the steps to integrate illustra into the server, but am
having problems....  The steps listed in the install docs are different from
the way it was done in NaviServer (most of it was auto-magically done).

The message I get after trying to add the pool for illustra, and adding the
nsdb module to my virtual server is:

[13/May/1996:17:17:18 -0500][98.102] Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could
not initialize pool: illustra_db1
[13/May/1996:17:17:19 -0500][98.102] Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could
not initialize database driver: illustra
[13/May/1996:17:17:19 -0500][98.102] Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could
not initialize database driver: odbc

If I use nsql, I can access the database fine, so I'm wondering where I
screwed up the Pool setup... any thoughts?

Tnx.

=======================================
Tank (SPM)                          Sean P. McNamara
Tank@PG.NET                   The Planet Group, Inc.
                                                Network Operations Center
Voice: (312) 772-8333
    Fax: (312) 772-9214

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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 22:30:40 EDT
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From:         "R. Craig Porter" <tripower@sonline.com>
Subject:      Re: Incompatibilities between MS C++ and Borland C

GN>I'm afraid we're not planning on recompiling everything with Borland
GN>and we're unwilling to give you the source to do it!  I guess you
GN>don't want to just switch to Microsoft?  At least for this
GN>development?

GN>doug

Doug,

I've found a workaround for the problem.  It isn't very straightforward,
but it does work. Rather than going into the solution here, I'll offer
that if anyone working on the Borland C++ platform wants to link in
GNN libraries such as NSD, etc, feel free to write me at
"tripower@sonline.com", or call me at 770/587-5672.

Borland is a really nice development platform in which to create C,
C++ and Java code, so I have NO desire to switch to Microsoft. I
found the solution in the Borland CompuServe forum and it does
work. Thanks anyway for the help, and thanks for posting the
responses.

Regards,

R. Craig Porter
TriPower & Associates - Atlanta
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 23:09:25 -0400
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From:         Shawn Mathews <us019327@interramp.com>
Subject:      Re: java client/GNN server

You wrote

----------
> Anyone have any experience/expertise connecting java clients to GNN
server.
> Want to avoid writing server daemon and possibly use java odbc drivers.
> Need to be able to save data inputed through java applet, either in
database
> or as flat files of various formats.
>
> Also, any experience in the reverse, exporting from GNN database to java
applet.
>
> Will hire expertise if can find it.
>
> Thanks.

I currently have a Virtual ScoreBoard applet which communicates with
GNNServer to get
the current players and thier positions during baseball games from the
builtin Illustra database.

The java applet is currently being rewritten after beta testing during the
month of april and is offline. If you would like, a demo can be arranged.


Shawn Mathews
us019327@Interramp.com
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Date:         Mon, 13 May 1996 18:02:38 -0800
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From:         Alex Khassin <akhassin@am.net>
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help
In-Reply-To:  <01BB3F41.BEB0C2E0@fishybox.connix.com>

--=_14tW39g.bO1996u.N02d000A.r05Y.02:0071b3
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

>Fourthly, if I am totally off base, and there is another way to implement
my used car database system (C code, .tcl script, another web presence
provider, etc.), please tell me.
>

James,

You are certainly on the right track with using the NaviServer/Illustra
database for what you want.  Version 2 will give you most of of the
capabilities that are required.  Version 2.1 (which will probably take
several months) will also make it easier for you to manipulate forms.

For now, you will definately need to write quite a bit of code.  I'd like
to offer our Naviserver/GNNServer programming services to you.  We've been
working with the NaviServer since its alpha release, have one in-house, and
can write or help you write the TCL scripts to manipulate the database.

If you are interested please respond to me in private at:
mailto:akhassin@am.net


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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 00:29:47 -0400
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From:         Shawn Mathews <us019327@interramp.com>
Subject:      runtime error R6018 - -unexpected heap error

runtime error R6018
- unexpected heap error

I seem to be getting this error during Database Access using gnnserver.
Anyone with any idea what this means?

Out server is running GNN 2.031 on Windows NT with 64MB of RAM



Shawn Mathews
US019327@Interramp.com
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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 01:10:17 -0400
Reply-To:     philg@mit.edu
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From:         Philip Greenspun <philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu>
Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 12 May 1996 to 13 May 1996
Comments: cc: fishybox@connix.com
In-Reply-To:  <199605140401.AAA15034@services.web.aol.com> (message from
              Automatic digest processor on Tue, 14 May 1996 00:00:00 -0400)

   Date:    Sat, 11 May 1996 13:54:37 -0400
   From:    James Robert Hartman <fishybox@connix.com>
   Subject: Urgent Database Help

   I am currently developing an automotive web site that auto dealerships =
   will be able to subscribe to. As part of the subscription, the =
   dealerships will have their used cars in a searchable database, to be =

You might want to read my article on building RDBMS-backed Web sites in

http://webtools.com/wtr/

   First of all, I will be getting used car inventory listings every day. =
   Of course, many of the used car entries that go into the database will =
   eventually have to be removed because they will no longer be offered. I =
   asked a Naviservice technician, and he told me that I would have to =
   delete the entire table in order to delete just one listing. I think =
   that sounds absolutely absurd, and I would like that to be verified. If =
   it is not true, and a database entry CAN be removed easily, please tell =
   me how.

The relevant SQL code would look like

delete from used_car_table where listing_id = 57;

but of course you have to wrap it in the NaviServer Tcl API.  I'm going
to be publishing a bunch of examples that do this soon.

   Secondly, is there any way to use Microsoft Access or other database =
   application to make a database on my end, export it to a compatible =
   format, and upload it to my website? That would be ultimate in =
   convenience. If you know if this is feasible now, feasible later, or =
   feasible on another hosting service, please help me out.

It was very painful to make Access talk to the Illustra database at
Hearst Corporation, mostly because of our ignorance of Access but also
because it required the Solaris operating system to be patched on the
server side.  If you had Access talking in real time to the GNN Hosting
db, THAT would be the ultimate in convenience, but I doubt that they
will let you through their firewall (security risk).

   Thirdly, what does Naviservice version 2 offer me in terms of this =
   search system? Since I think it may require a lengthy answer, and I am =
   definitely already asking a lot out of you folks, can you refer me to a =
   URL or something? And when will servers be updated (I have heard that it =
   may be up to 90 days!)

Searching is no better in GNN Server 2.  It is still the same old
Illustra Text Blade that has failed for me every time I have ever tried
to use it.  What you will want for your short listings is the Illustra
PLS Blade.  You can see it in action in the classified ads section of

http://photo.net/photo/

But you'll have to goad GNN Hosting into adding the PLS Blade (they
don't have it now).

   Fourthly, if I am totally off base, and there is another way to =
   implement my used car database system (C code, .tcl script, another web =
   presence provider, etc.), please tell me.

I'm going to up until 6 a.m. using Oracle WebServer 2.0 to build a
database-backed site.  This is the latest and greatest from a $3 billion
company but frankly I think that the NaviServer Tcl API is much nicer
and faster for the programmer.

What you've come up against is that building a decent db-backed site
requires many hours of programming by a non-bonehead.  GNN Server helps
you with performance, GNN Hosting helps you by keeping the server
running and the database administered and backed up (a full time job for
one or more people), but ultimately someone has to write your
car-specific code.

      -- Philip Greenspun

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545 Technology Square, Rm 609, Cambridge, MA 02139, (617) 253-8574
Personal Web URL:  http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/philg/
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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 11:47:18 PDT
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From:         email@callnet.com
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help

Sounds like us

We had the same problem with NaviSoft and Illustra. There are no controls available to the database. and for them to suggest to delete the entire database is absurd.

We finally gave up with tcl and using the NaviSever sql.

Our solution

Make a directory where you can stick a ASKII text file and search the text file with a cgi script. You can then give ftp permission to your clients and allow them to replace the datafile when ever they want. Our cgi list all the datafiles in the directory and builds the html document on the fly. We don't have to do any more work than to create the cgi script. You are welcome to this cgi script for free, plus there are hundreds more on the net that will do about the same job.

if you would like to see it in action the URL is
http://www.online-magazine.com/cgi-bin/search.pl

ssteinhardt@online-magazine.com
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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 15:21:08 -0400
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From:         "Jason Y. Chiang" <chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      Domain name...
In-Reply-To:  <199605140431.AAA18216@smtp2.interramp.com>

Hi.

Is there a way to obtain user's domain name?  I couldn't find it in the
header.  And I can only have numeric IP address by running ns_conn
peeraddr.  Thanks for any help.

Jason Chiang

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
           Jason Y. Chiang
         CyberSurfer Studios
         22 West 19th Street
         New York, NY 10011
         Tel: 212-807-7071
              212-691-9117
         Fax: 212-691-9203
  www: http://sparky.cs.nyu.edu:12345
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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 20:27:52 +0100
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From:         Howard Jones <hjones@vossnet.co.uk>
Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 12 May 1996 to 13 May 1996
Comments: To: philg@mit.edu
In-Reply-To:  <199605140514.BAA15505@services.web.aol.com>

On Tue, 14 May 1996, Philip Greenspun wrote:
> It was very painful to make Access talk to the Illustra database at
> Hearst Corporation, mostly because of our ignorance of Access but also
> because it required the Solaris operating system to be patched on the
> server side.  If you had Access talking in real time to the GNN Hosting
> db, THAT would be the ultimate in convenience, but I doubt that they
> will let you through their firewall (security risk).

You should be able to get Access 7 to make HTTP POST requests with
database changes directly using something like the MS Internet OCX's.
Each time a relevant action is taken in the Access app, it also tells a
TCL function waiting on Navi/GNN to make an equivalent change on Illustra.

I've not tried this yet because
(a) I only have Access 2
(b) I have my own server running Access over ODBC quite happily

but I can't see any reason not to. The TCL functions are most likely
already there in the /NS/Db/Admin functions.

Does anyone know how well Access/Jet 3.0 performs in a WWW situation? It
is working out OK for our stuff so far, but it has yet to be really tested.

--
Howard Jones
Voss Net Plc.
Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 17:06:43 -0400
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From:         gnat <gnat@aol.net>
Subject:      Re: Domain name...
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.92.960514151932.4477B-100000@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Tue, 14 May 1996, Jason Y. Chiang wrote:

> Is there a way to obtain user's domain name?  I couldn't find it in the
> header.  And I can only have numeric IP address by running ns_conn
> peeraddr.  Thanks for any help.

Not that I know of. I had to create a new Tcl procedure through the C API
to take advantage of the Ns_GetHostByAddr() function. You pass the
procedure an IP address and it returns the hostname (if it can find it).

If you are interested in the source for this let me know and I will give
it to you.

David Whittle
Internet Systems Developer
Digital City
(P) (703) 918-2465
(F) (703) 917-1207
(E) gnat@aol.net
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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 23:16:43 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Caching problems? Not really
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SOL.3.91.960509153138.28544A-100000@pb.packardbell.com>
              (message from Jeff Gustafson on Thu, 9 May 1996 15:36:43 -0700)

>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Gustafson <jeffgus@PACKARDBELL.COM> writes:

    Jeff> On Thu, 9 May 1996 wells@alexandria.sdc.ucsb.edu wrote:
    >> >Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 14:48:35 -0700 >From: Jeff Gustafson
    >> <jeffgus@packardbell.com> >Subject: GNN server and browser
    >> caching
    >>
    >> > A co-worker pointed out to me that everytime he browses our
    >> site >or the GNN site, all of the graphics and text are
    >> reloaded from the server.  >If he browses other sites this
    >> doesn't seems to happen because the browser >has cached the
    >> graphics or text.  For some reason GNNserver makes Netscape
    >> >think it always has to reload all of the graphics and text
    >> when it doesn't >need to.  Has anyone else had this same
    >> experience?  If this is a real >problem will it be fixed in the
    >> next version of GNN server?
    >>
    >> Well I am running GNNServer on both a Alpha and Solaris setup
    >> and have noticed no caching problems.  In fact, because our
    >> server generates pages dynamically we want the pages to always
    >> be reloaded and had to specifically do some URL mangling to
    >> ensure it.  All caching has worked as expected according the
    >> the Netscape Cache options.  Perhaps your friend has his
    >> browser set to "Every Time" or perhaps those other pages and
    >> graphics fill his cache first.  Just thought I would mention I
    >> have had no indication of such a problem.

    Jeff>         Are you sure?  I didn't notice the caching problem
    Jeff> because I always access our web site through the ethernet or
    Jeff> T1.  It wasn't until a co-worker tried it on a 14.4kbps
    Jeff> connection that I found this problem.  It seems that I'm
    Jeff> having trouble specifically with graphics.  Netscape wants
    Jeff> to rely on the caching more when it comes to graphics.  I
    Jeff> used a packet sniffer to see what was really going on and
    Jeff> GNNserver is not noticing the 'If-Modified-Since:' header
    Jeff> that Netscape sends.  GNNServer resends the graphics no
    Jeff> matter what time the 'If-Modified-Since' header sends.

Alright, here's the deal: 2.031/2.04 takes a short cut in handling the
If-Modified-Since header.  Normally a browser saves the
Last-Modified of each page that comes back from a server and when
it doesn't trust the cache, it will send a request to the server for
the page with an If-Modified-Since header equal to the Last-Modified
header that it got before.  GNNserver 2.031/2.04 does the right thing
in this case.  If the browser does something tricky like give a time
before the Last-Modified time, GNNserver will say it HAS been modified
and return the page.  It sounds like this is what you're seeing.  The
good news is that this is fixed in 2.1 which you'll see in beta
release real soon.

doug

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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 23:37:02 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: NaviServer and Illustra LIBMI
Comments: cc: jimbo@navisoft.com
In-Reply-To:  <01BB3D0B.F71C9240@joedpc.pfn.com> (message from Joe Dougherty on
              Wed, 8 May 1996 18:27:06 -0400)

>>>>> "Joe" == Joe Dougherty <joed@pfn.com> writes:

    Joe> I'm trying to use the Illustra LIBMI functions to write to a
    Joe> table.  I'm = using LIBMI to speed up the insertion of
    Joe> time-critical data.  I can = connect to the database using
    Joe> the 'mi_open' function with no problem.  = When I use the
    Joe> 'mi_exec' and 'mi_table_row_insert' functions, however, I =
    Joe> get this message in my log:

    Joe>     [12951.0xf] Bug: MiCallback called on an MI_CONNECTION
    Joe> with no = Ns_DbHandle

    Joe> The LIBMI functions use a MI_CONNECTION object and don't know
    Joe> anything = about Ns_DbHandles.  Is this a configuration
    Joe> issue?  Do the NaviServer = and LIBMI get along? =20

The bad news is that you're pretty much out of luck right now; it's
not something we thought anyone would be doing, and you will get the
error you've seen.  We'll take a look at changing this in 2.1.  The
good news is that since all the work happens on the backend of the
database anyway, you wouldn't be saving much time anyway.

doug

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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 23:43:20 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Nested ns_db select problem
In-Reply-To:  <v01540b01adb9153d877d@[198.69.37.167]> (petej@clickvision.com)

>>>>> "Peter" == Peter M Jansson <petej@clickvision.com> writes:

    >> I am trying to write a nested SQL SELECT program like:
    >>
    >> set row1 [ns_db select $db $sql1]
    >> while { [ns_db getrow $db $row1] } {
    >>    ....
    >>    set row2 [ns_db select $db $sql2]
    >>    ns_db getrow $db $row2
    >>    ....
    >> }
    Peter> Can you accomplish what you want with a join?  If, for
    Peter> example, you have a master/detail situation, like orders in
    Peter> one table and line items in another table where the line
    Peter> items contain a reference to the order, you can do
    Peter> something like

    Peter> set row1 [ns_db select $db "select o.orderkey, o.ordername,
    Peter> t.lineitemnumber, t.lineitemdescription from orders o,
    Peter> lineitems t where o.orderkey = t.orderkey"] <== orderkey
    Peter> has to appear in both tables

    Peter> Then, the number of rows you'll get back is one per line
    Peter> item, with each row having the order information as well as
    Peter> the specific line item info.

    Peter> If the amount of information in the master record (orders
    Peter> in this case) is large, you need to keep an eye on
    Peter> performance.

Pete's solution is definitely the most elegant, but sometimes you just
want to do a nested select.  It's pretty easy; you just need 2
database handles; just make sure you grab them both at the same time:

set dbs [ns_db gethandle mypool 2]
set db1 [lindex $dbs 0]
set db2 [lindex $dbs 1]

set row1 [ns_db select $db1 $sql1]
while { [ns_db getrow $db1 $row1] } {
    ....
    set row2 [ns_db select $db2 $sql2]
    ns_db getrow $db2 $row2
    ....
}

doug

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Date:         Tue, 14 May 1996 23:48:51 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Access Restriction
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SGI.3.91.960510085051.9640A-100000@smoke.office.aol.com>
              (message from gnat on Fri, 10 May 1996 09:07:54 -0400)

>>>>> "Dave" == gnat  <gnat@AOL.NET> writes:

    Dave> On Thu, 9 May 1996, Don Bellamy wrote:
    >> Hello!
    >>
    >> I want to know if the following is possible.  I have a virtual
    >> server setup with its own domain.  Another company's web site
    >> is placing links to my site.  Is there a way to block access to
    >> people who try to access my site through those links?
    >>
    >> I tried experimenting with GNN's permissions, but couldn't
    >> figure out if there was a way to do it.  If there is a way to
    >> do this, I would really like to find out how.

    Dave> You could register a servertrace module that checked the
    Dave> referer data against a list of URLs you didn't want to link
    Dave> to your site and return them a response if they are, or let
    Dave> the server return the page if they are not coming from a URL
    Dave> in your list.

This wouldn't work; by the time the trace kicks in, the response has
already been sent out.  You could instead write a C wrapper around the
existing permissions system that checked the Referrer header against a
list of restricted sites, and if it matched returned Forbidden.  Of
course, this means writing C code, and won't work if the browser
doesn't support Referrer (most do).

Is this a feature that people would use?  I thought people wanted
people to get to their site and didn't care how they got there.

doug

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Date:         Wed, 15 May 1996 01:18:44 -0400
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From:         Philip Greenspun <philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu>
Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 13 May 1996 to 14 May 1996
Comments: cc: Tank@PG.NET
In-Reply-To:  <199605150404.AAA20504@services.web.aol.com> (message from
              Automatic digest processor on Wed, 15 May 1996 00:01:42 -0400)

   Date:    Mon, 13 May 1996 17:35:56 CDT
   From:    "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
   Subject: Initial Config with GNN (fresh install)

   Greets-

   I have been working with a copy of GNN that was upgraded (incrementally,
   all the way from NaviServer 1.0).

   I needed to get a non-production machine running to test some of my DB
   apps, so I installed GNN on my machine (using the latest release from
   GNN)...  I followed the steps to integrate illustra into the server, but am
   having problems....  The steps listed in the install docs are different from
   the way it was done in NaviServer (most of it was auto-magically done).

   The message I get after trying to add the pool for illustra, and adding the
   nsdb module to my virtual server is:

   [13/May/1996:17:17:18 -0500][98.102] Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could
   not initialize pool: illustra_db1
   [13/May/1996:17:17:19 -0500][98.102] Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could
   not initialize database driver: illustra
   [13/May/1996:17:17:19 -0500][98.102] Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could
   not initialize database driver: odbc

   If I use nsql, I can access the database fine, so I'm wondering where I
   screwed up the Pool setup... any thoughts?

I have screwed up the Pool setup in the same way several times.  When it
asks for Illustra database, I generally type:

<my host name>:<my database name>

But the right thing is

default:<my database name>

What goes on the left hand side is something from the Illustra MiParams
file, NOT an Internet DNS name.

      -- Philip Greenspun

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MIT Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
545 Technology Square, Rm 609, Cambridge, MA 02139, (617) 253-8574
Personal Web URL:  http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/philg/
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Date:         Wed, 15 May 1996 16:17:59 +0200
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From:         Lahaye Olivier <lahaye@suisse.far.cea.fr>
Subject:      Does GNNserver is able to run as a proxy server ?

=09Hi,

  I'm currently using the CERN httpd 3.0 configured tu run as a proxy
server, in order to handle a global cache.

GNNserver seems wonderfull,
but I'd like to know if it is able to run as a proxy server.

It's realy important for me to handle a global cache because:
 - there are no more caches in home-dirs (good for backups)
 - if a user A connects to a slow site, the user B will access this
   site very fast.
 - internet trafic is reduced.

Thanks for answers.

--
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E-mail: olivier.lahaye@cea.fr [Sys Administrator CEA Fontenay FRANCE]
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Date:         Wed, 15 May 1996 16:09:42 BST
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From:         Justin Newnam <Justin.Newnam@armltd.co.uk>
Subject:      Connecting to ODBC

I'm currently having problems in connecting the GNNserver running
under WindowsNT to an ODBC database. I'm using GNNserver 2.3 with the
upgrade.

As a test of the system I created a simple Excel Spreadsheet, and used
the ODBC-32 icon under the control panel to reference the file using
the XLS driver. This was done for my login (jnewnam), and the database
source was called 'test'.

When starting the server, the log file gives the following:

[] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:  Loading module file:  c:/gnn/server/bin/nsshtml.dll
[] Notice: Ns_ModuleLoad(ferdinand):  Loading module:  nsdb.dll
[] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:  Loading module file:  c:/gnn/server/bin/nsdb.dll
[] Notice: Ns_ModuleLoad(odbc):  Loading module:  nsodbc.dll
[] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:  Loading module file:  c:/gnn/server/bin/nsodbc.dll
[] Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc):  Opening datasource:  test
[] Notice: SQLConnect(test, jnewnam, )
[] Error: ODBC message: SQLSTATE = IM002, Native err = 0, msg = '[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Data source name not found and no default driver specified'
[] Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could not initialize pool: test
[] Notice: SockStart(ferdinand, nssock):  Listening on:  http://ferdinand.armltd.co.uk

Note, I have removed the time and date info.


Best Regards,

Justin.
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Date:         Wed, 15 May 1996 16:54:19 -0400
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From:         "Jason Y. Chiang" <chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help
In-Reply-To:  <19960514020238.akhassin@am.net>

Is there a way to return HTML to a certain frame in Netscape by Tcl
scripts?

Jason Chiang

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
           Jason Y. Chiang
         CyberSurfer Studios
         22 West 19th Street
         New York, NY 10011
         Tel: 212-807-7071
              212-691-9117
         Fax: 212-691-9203
  www: http://sparky.cs.nyu.edu:12345
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Date:         Wed, 15 May 1996 19:48:21 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Illustra and sql
In-Reply-To:  <9605090038.AA00264@huge.apcom.com> (message from ACS on Wed, 8
              May 1996 17:38:04 -0700)

>>>>> "Hugo" == ACS  <hugo@apcom.com> writes:

    Hugo> Does Illustra's flavor of sql not support concat, ltrim and
    Hugo> rtrim functions on text?

    Hugo> When I try select concat (City, State) from foo; I cet:
    Hugo> XP0016:Cannot resolve column/function reference 'concat' on
    Hugo> arguments of types: (text, text)

    Hugo> Or if I try select City, LTRIM (City, 'V') from foo;
    Hugo> XP0016:Cannot resolve column/function reference 'LTRIM' on
    Hugo> arguments of types: (text, text)

Illustra supports Concat with a capital C, and the "trim" function:

From the Illustra User's Guide (which comes with complete sets of
GNNserver printed documentation, but not the online postscript
versions: call 1-800-879-6882 to order yours today for $250!):

The trim function strips a trailing and/or leading character from a
character string.  It is usually used to strip trailing or leading
blanks.  The first argument is a keyword indicating whether the
function should be applied to leading, trailing or both leading and
trailing occurrences of the character to be removed.  The optional
second argument is the character to be stripped.  If this argument is
omitted, trim assumes that the character is a blank (' ').  The third
argument is the character string to be trimmed.

The syntax is:

        trim({leading|trailing|both} [character] from character_string)

The following examples indicated the behavior of trim. [just one included]

        return trim(leading "" from '     Michael   ');

        _____________
        |trim       |
        |Michael    |
        _____________

doug

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Date:         Wed, 15 May 1996 20:01:53 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Directory Mapping Follow-Up
In-Reply-To:  <199605101312.NAA22382@pipe3.t2.usa.pipeline.com> (message from
              Chris Cline on Fri, 10 May 1996 13:12:06 GMT)

> A couple of weeks ago I posted a question I had about directory mapping.
> (It was posted in the digest of 4/24.  The initial reply was in the digest
> of 4/25.)  To refresh your memory, I am trying to use Macromedia BackStage

You don't give up!  I hope you've been working on other stuff the past
3 weeks!

> to access ODBC databases.  BackStage requires ibbin & ibimages to be mapped
> to a bin & images directory within the BackStage sub-directory to work.
> Below is a section of my log file:

> [09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  GET /cgi-bin ->
> c:/inet/gnn/server/bin
> [09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  POST /cgi-bin ->
> c:/inet/gnn/server/bin
> [09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  GET /ibbin ->
> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin
> [09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  POST /ibbin ->
> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin
> [09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  GET /ibimages ->
> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/images
> [09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: Cgi:  POST /ibimages ->
> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/images
> [09/May/1996:12:22:29 -0400][199.163] Notice: SockStart(server1, nssock):
> Listening on:  http://200.0.0.2
> [09/May/1996:12:24:32 -0400][199.239] Error: Invalid CGI URL /ibimages;
> mapping /ibimages -> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/images requires a
> script file within the URL.
> [09/May/1996:12:24:42 -0400][199.239] Error: Invalid CGI URL /ibbin;
> mapping /ibbin -> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin requires a script
> file within the URL.
> [09/May/1996:12:26:13 -0400][199.239] Error: Invalid CGI URL /ibbin;
> mapping /ibbin -> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin requires a script
> file within the URL.
> [09/May/1996:12:27:28 -0400][199.164] Error: Invalid CGI URL /ibimages;
> mapping /ibimages -> c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/images requires a
> script file within the URL.

> I have no idea what 'script file' I need.

Your mapping of /ibbin looks great, but it looks like your package may
be trying to access the /ibbin URL itself which I don't understand.
Normally, your URL's will have a script name appended to them (e.g.,
/ibbin/fooscript) and the server will run the corresponding CGI script
(e.g., c:/inet/macromedia/backstagetrial/bin/fooscript)

> Also, is there a section of set-up where "plain" directory mapping
> can be done, as opposed to CGI mapping.  According to the FrontPage
> documentation, the images directory should use "plain" directory
> mapping, while the bin directory should be mapped using CGI mapping.
> Again, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Yes, you definitely need to remove the CGI mapping for /ibimages, and
add a "normal" mapping.  It is (admittedly) a little harder than it
should it be, but you just need to add the "alias" example module (we
give you the source and the binary) to your virtual server and then
configure it.  Here's the documentation on the example module; hope it
solves your problem!

doug

----------------------------------------------------------------
This example module implements a URL->file aliasing extension to
GNNserver using the Ns_SetUrlToFileProc function from the C API. Loading
this module enables you to define mappings such as
/oldplace/foo.html=newplace/foo.html.  This module maintains compatibility
with the existing (default) GNNserver UrlToFile function by supporting
UserMapDir and PageRoot configuration variables, both of which are
subsumed by the expressive capabilities of this module.

You can load and configure this module by editing your nsd.ini file as
follows:
1) In your [ns\server\server-name\modules] section, add the
   following:
   alias=alias.dll     ;or alias.so on Unix platforms
2) Add a section for the alias module that contains your aliases. E.g.:
   [ns\server\server-name\module\alias]
   /oldplace/foo.html=newplace/foo.html
   ...

Note that you can accomplish the above with the setup interface by using the
"List GNNserver Configuration Sections"  available from the "Setup Home"
page in expert mode, or you can edit the nsd.ini file with your favorite
text editor.

When defining maps with key/value pairs, keep the following in mind:
1) The key ('/oldplace/foo.html' above) is in "URI space" and the value
   ('newplace/foo.html' above) is in "file space".
2) By default, the file space value ('newplace/foo.html' above) is assumed
   to be relative to the page root defined for the "server-name"
   virtual server. In "file space" (right side of =), you can also
   specify an absolute pathname such as /home/user/html/index.html
   or c:\html\index.html (NT). So, be careful not to use a leading '/'
   on the right side of the '=' unless you mean it.
3) In "file space", '~username' expands to the user's default directory, and
   '~' looks for a user name in the second element of the URI, substituting
   the user's home directory appropriately.
4) In "URI space", a leading '/~' mapped to a leading '~' in file
   space supports the common ~user usage in URI space.

Now, let's clear things up with an example.  Note that the comments following each
mapping show a sample URI input followed by sample output generated by this module.
   [ns\server\server-name\module\alias]
   /user1=~godzilla  ;/user1 -> /home/godzilla
   /user2=~/pages    ;/user2/bambi -> /home/bambi/pages
                     ;OR /user2/bambi/foo -> /home/bambi/pages/foo
   /user3=~          ;/user3/bambi -> /home/bambi
                     ;OR /user3/bambi/html -> /home/bambi/html
   /~=~/pages        ;/~foot -> /home/foot/pages
                     ;OR /~foot/section -> /home/foot/pages/section

Note that the last entry obviates the need for the 'UserMapDir'
configuration parameter.  To provide compatibility with the default
Ns_UrlToFile function, we'll insert a mapping to reflect the
UserMapDir if it is set in the nsd.ini file.  If UserMapDir is defined
and there is a mapping of the form: /~=~/otherplace, the mapping takes
precedence.

Another mapping, more pervasive than the previous examples, is the following:
 /=/home/newroot This overrides the PageRoot parameter defined in the
server-specific section of nsd.ini.  As you would expect, it also
defines the implicit root for all other relative "file space" (right
side of '=') values that appear in other aliases.
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From:         "Stephen A. Mattin" <stephen@medilife.com>
Organization: MediLife Software
Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 14 May 1996 to 15 May 1996

Jason Chiang wrote:
>Is there a way to return HTML to a certain frame in Netscape by Tcl
>scripts?

While frame targets are normally set on the link, you can force one
in CGI by including a "Window-target: whatever" HTTP header in the
same place you output the "Content-type".  Note that "META HTTP-EQUIV"
does not work for Netscape and the HTTP header does not work with the
most recent MS Internet Explorer 3.0 beta.
--
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stephen@MediLife.COM
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From:         Philip Greenspun <philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu>
Subject:      threaded discussion group software available

I have a released a GNN Server/Illustra threaded discussion group (like
NetNews) software package.  You can play with it and download the source
code from

http://demo.webho.com/

Enjoy,

      -- Philip Greenspun

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545 Technology Square, Rm 609, Cambridge, MA 02139, (617) 253-8574
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From:         Howard Jones <hjones@vossnet.co.uk>
Subject:      MS FrontPage?

Am I right in thinking that MS FrontPage will work straight off with GNN,
without needing extensions? My understanding is that the 'FrontPage
Extensions' that MS supply are basically the implementation of PUT on
those servers that don't support it.

Has anyone tried FrontPage with GNN? No offense, but after FP,
(especially with all the nice project management stuff), GNNPress looks a
little tired.

--
Howard Jones
Voss Net Plc.
Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
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From:         Howard Jones <hjones@vossnet.co.uk>
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.92.960515165302.15853C-100000@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Wed, 15 May 1996, Jason Y. Chiang wrote:
> Is there a way to return HTML to a certain frame in Netscape by Tcl
> scripts?
>
> Jason Chiang

In the <A> tag that called the URL that the TCL is mapped to, just use a
TARGET attribute, like you would normally. I think there is also a way to
direct output by adding HTTP headers though.

Howard Jones
Voss Net Plc.
Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
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Date:         Thu, 16 May 1996 11:32:18 -0700
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From:         Doug Lakin <Doug@TeleCommerce.com>
Subject:      Re: MS FrontPage?
Comments: cc: hjones@vossnet.co.uk

At 9:21 AM 5/16/96, Howard Jones wrote:
>Am I right in thinking that MS FrontPage will work straight off with GNN,
>without needing extensions? My understanding is that the 'FrontPage
>Extensions' that MS supply are basically the implementation of PUT on
>those servers that don't support it.
>
>Has anyone tried FrontPage with GNN? No offense, but after FP,
>(especially with all the nice project management stuff), GNNPress looks a
>little tired.
>
>--
>Howard Jones
>Voss Net Plc.
>Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
>http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html

Howard, I've used the FrontPage extension with the Netscape Communications
server on NT, and it uses the POST method. I don't really know what is
involved in getting it to work with GNNServer. I did previously express my
wish that GNN work with Microsoft to create an extension for GNNServer, but
I received no response.

The new FrontPage 1.1 is far superior to anything else on the market,
especially with the Microsoft Office integration. In fact, AT&T gives it
away to all their EasyWeb publishing customers.

Doug Lakin
 President, TeleCommerce, Inc.
 9452 Telephone Road #246
 Ventura, CA 93004
 805-658-0201 (VOICE)  805-658-0203 (FAX)
          ________________________________________________________
          "He who follows sheep gets eaten by wolves"...Confucious
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@gnnhost.com>
Subject:      Re: MS FrontPage?

At 11:32 AM 5/16/96 -0700, Doug Lakin wrote:
>
>The new FrontPage 1.1 is far superior to anything else on the market,
>especially with the Microsoft Office integration. In fact, AT&T gives it
>away to all their EasyWeb publishing customers.

"Gives it away" is a bit strong... The cost of *one copy* of FrontPage is
included in the $1500 startup fee for the AT&T service. (As a note, the
monthly fee with AT&T is $500-$600, and -- get this -- they won't let you
put any executable code on the server. That compares quite poorly, I think.)

Cheers,

Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
Webmaster, GNN Hosting Service            http://www.gnnhost.com/
Moderator, gnnhost-l and gnndeveloper-l
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From:         John Muller <jmuller3@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:      Visitor tracking software

Just now getting ready to deploy a site using
GNNserver. Not very experienced with it as yet.

Can anyone recommend software which allows us
to track Web site visitors (which pages or
portions of the site they visit, user ID's, etc.)?

Thanks!

John Muller
jmuller3@ix.netcom.com
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From:         "Scott R. Madans" <smadans@ihp.com>
Organization: Instant Homepage
Subject:      Re: MS FrontPage?

Doug Lakin wrote:
>
> At 9:21 AM 5/16/96, Howard Jones wrote:
> >Am I right in thinking that MS FrontPage will work straight off with GNN,
> >without needing extensions? My understanding is that the 'FrontPage
> >Extensions' that MS supply are basically the implementation of PUT on
> >those servers that don't support it.
> >
> >Has anyone tried FrontPage with GNN? No offense, but after FP,
> >(especially with all the nice project management stuff), GNNPress looks a
> >little tired.
> >
> >--
> >Howard Jones
> >Voss Net Plc.
> >Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
> >http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
>
> Howard, I've used the FrontPage extension with the Netscape Communications
> server on NT, and it uses the POST method. I don't really know what is
> involved in getting it to work with GNNServer. I did previously express my
> wish that GNN work with Microsoft to create an extension for GNNServer, but
> I received no response.
>
> The new FrontPage 1.1 is far superior to anything else on the market,
> especially with the Microsoft Office integration. In fact, AT&T gives it
> away to all their EasyWeb publishing customers.
>
> Doug Lakin
>  President, TeleCommerce, Inc.
>  9452 Telephone Road #246
>  Ventura, CA 93004
>  805-658-0201 (VOICE)  805-658-0203 (FAX)
>           ________________________________________________________
>           "He who follows sheep gets eaten by wolves"...Confucious

----------

I don't know if it works out of the box, or not.  But...

As I read it, you MUST add MS-Extensions to your server to get it to work.
You must RESTART the server for each new user.  I did get it, but I am
hesitant to install it because the FAQ on the download page referres to a
built-in "Personal Server" that is part of the app.  Just what I need --
another application to mess with GNNserver.  Perhaps I will try it on another
machine.

Let me know if you get it to work!

Scott
smadans@ihp.com
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@gnnhost.com>
Subject:      Re: Visitor tracking software

At 04:21 PM 5/16/96 PDT, John Muller wrote:
>Just now getting ready to deploy a site using
>GNNserver. Not very experienced with it as yet.
>
>Can anyone recommend software which allows us
>to track Web site visitors (which pages or
>portions of the site they visit, user ID's, etc.)?

John,

If you have a medium or low amount of traffic, I would
suggest something like Interse (runs on NT) or net.Analysis
(runs on Solaris, with NT or Solaris client). Both of these
products use a database backend, will allow trend analysis, and
will create graphics showing the results. Interse is a bit more
flexible/customizable, but net.Analysis's approach allows
generally faster queries.

If your site gets lots of hits, though, I think you'll find the
scalability limits of both. I haven't tested enough to tell you
exactly, but I certainly wouldn't use either with sites that
generate >1 million hits/day; with 100,000 hits/day, you will
still want to test them pretty thoroughly. If you end up with
very large logs, I would suggest using I/PRO or settling for
more limited capability with WebReporter or a freeware package.

Here are the relevant URLs:
        http://www.interse.com
        http://www.netgen.com           (net.Analysis)
        http://www.openmarket.com       (WebReporter)
        http://www.ipro.com

Cheers,

Jeff Rawlings -- rawlings@gnnhost.com -- http://www.gnnhost.com/
Internet Marketing Manager, GNN Hosting Service
  *Web hosting with multiple-T3 connectivity and 7x24 monitoring
  *GNNserver software, with relational database and full APIs
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: runtime error R6018 - -unexpected heap error
In-Reply-To:  <199605140431.AAA18216@smtp2.interramp.com> (message from Shawn
              Mathews on Tue, 14 May 1996 00:29:47 -0400)

>>>>> "Shawn" == Shawn Mathews <us019327@interramp.com> writes:

    Shawn> runtime error R6018 - unexpected heap error

    Shawn> I seem to be getting this error during Database Access
    Shawn> using gnnserver.  Anyone with any idea what this means?

    Shawn> Out server is running GNN 2.031 on Windows NT with 64MB of
    Shawn> RAM

Can you be more specific about when you're getting the error?  It is
possible to really hang yourself with the Tcl interface (although not
THAT easy) and fairly easy with the C interface.  What are the last
entries in the server.log and the access logs?

doug

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Date:         Fri, 17 May 1996 08:07:37 +0100
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From:         Howard Jones <hjones@vossnet.co.uk>
Subject:      Re: MS FrontPage?
Comments: To: "Scott R. Madans" <smadans@ihp.com>
In-Reply-To:  <319BA2CB.239C@ihp.com>

On Thu, 16 May 1996, Scott R. Madans wrote:

> Doug Lakin wrote:
> I don't know if it works out of the box, or not.  But...
>
> As I read it, you MUST add MS-Extensions to your server to get it to work.
> You must RESTART the server for each new user.  I did get it, but I am
> hesitant to install it because the FAQ on the download page referres to a
> built-in "Personal Server" that is part of the app.  Just what I need --
> another application to mess with GNNserver.  Perhaps I will try it on another
> machine.
>
> Let me know if you get it to work!

Actually the Personal Web Server bit is there for if you *don't* have another
server already. I currently have the FP server on port 81 and GNN or port
80 of my development machine and that works OK, except that the FP files
don't sit in the webspace of the GNN server. I'lll fiddle with all this
today if I get a chance - I don't think the extensions are anything very
clever.

Incidentally, regarding the price: I am happy to pay for good tools. We were
going to pay our $1500 for Naviserver before it became free and saved us
the trouble, and I will be paying my $150 for Frontpage when it goes
commercial.

Howard.

--
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Voss Net Plc.
Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
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From:         William Murphy <WilliamM@infomatique.iol.ie>
Subject:      Re: Visitor tracking software

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Have a look at WebTrends

>----------
>From:  John Muller[SMTP:jmuller3@ix.netcom.com]
>Sent:  17 May 1996 00:21
>To:    Multiple recipients of list GNNDEVELOPER-L
>Subject:       Visitor tracking software
>
>Just now getting ready to deploy a site using
>GNNserver. Not very experienced with it as yet.
>
>Can anyone recommend software which allows us
>to track Web site visitors (which pages or
>portions of the site they visit, user ID's, etc.)?
>
>Thanks!
>
>John Muller
>jmuller3@ix.netcom.com
>

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From:         Mark_Wang@pcmailgw.ml.com
Subject:      Re[2]: MS FrontPage?

     I have been using GNN software for almost a year, and like is
     flexibility and API programming features. However, I am not sure how
     GNN, or AOL, want to position GNN Server/Press in the market? A free
     entry-level step stone, or a industrial strength commercial grade
     tool. I will not mind to pay for a good product.

     As for FrantPage, I believe the Personal Server is a good ideal for
     development and as a draft server.

     The editor is about 2 levels better than GNN Press (excuse me!)
     especially the object properties window.  How many places do we GNN
     users have to go the completely change the attributes of a paragraph
     of text?

     Any ideal when will version 2.o come out?


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Date:    5/17/96 9:57 AM


On Thu, 16 May 1996, Scott R. Madans wrote:

> Doug Lakin wrote:
> I don't know if it works out of the box, or not.  But...
>
> As I read it, you MUST add MS-Extensions to your server to get it to work.
> You must RESTART the server for each new user.  I did get it, but I am
> hesitant to install it because the FAQ on the download page referres to a
> built-in "Personal Server" that is part of the app.  Just what I need --
> another application to mess with GNNserver.  Perhaps I will try it on another
> machine.
>
> Let me know if you get it to work!

Actually the Personal Web Server bit is there for if you *don't* have another
server already. I currently have the FP server on port 81 and GNN or port
80 of my development machine and that works OK, except that the FP files
don't sit in the webspace of the GNN server. I'lll fiddle with all this
today if I get a chance - I don't think the extensions are anything very
clever.

Incidentally, regarding the price: I am happy to pay for good tools. We were
going to pay our $1500 for Naviserver before it became free and saved us
the trouble, and I will be paying my $150 for Frontpage when it goes
commercial.

Howard.

--
Howard Jones
Voss Net Plc.
Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
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I have been using FP since it was in beta by Vermeer.  You can install =
it without installing the personal server without any problems.  The =
server extensions must be installed to use the explorer portion of the =
program, as well as many of their bots.  My solution was to run 2 =
servers, one supported by FP used internally only, the other is used by =
the outside world (which has better features). =20

There are some features you can not use with this method (search engine, =
discussion, anything that relies on cgi), but the editing and management =
features work well.  IMHO FP is the easiest way to get a site up and =
running, some things will need to be done by hand coding, but overall it =
is a great product.

Steve

----------
From:   Scott R. Madans[SMTP:smadans@IHP.COM]
Sent:   Thursday, May 16, 1996 5:48 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list GNNDEVELOPER-L
Subject:        Re: MS FrontPage?

Doug Lakin wrote:
>
> At 9:21 AM 5/16/96, Howard Jones wrote:
> >Am I right in thinking that MS FrontPage will work straight off with =
GNN,
> >without needing extensions? My understanding is that the 'FrontPage
> >Extensions' that MS supply are basically the implementation of PUT on
> >those servers that don't support it.
> >
> >Has anyone tried FrontPage with GNN? No offense, but after FP,
> >(especially with all the nice project management stuff), GNNPress =
looks a
> >little tired.
> >
> >--
> >Howard Jones
> >Voss Net Plc.
> >Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
> >http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
>
> Howard, I've used the FrontPage extension with the Netscape =
Communications
> server on NT, and it uses the POST method. I don't really know what is
> involved in getting it to work with GNNServer. I did previously =
express my
> wish that GNN work with Microsoft to create an extension for =
GNNServer, but
> I received no response.
>
> The new FrontPage 1.1 is far superior to anything else on the market,
> especially with the Microsoft Office integration. In fact, AT&T gives =
it
> away to all their EasyWeb publishing customers.
>
> Doug Lakin
>  President, TeleCommerce, Inc.
>  9452 Telephone Road #246
>  Ventura, CA 93004
>  805-658-0201 (VOICE)  805-658-0203 (FAX)
>           ________________________________________________________
>           "He who follows sheep gets eaten by wolves"...Confucious

----------

I don't know if it works out of the box, or not.  But...

As I read it, you MUST add MS-Extensions to your server to get it to =
work.
You must RESTART the server for each new user.  I did get it, but I am
hesitant to install it because the FAQ on the download page referres to =
a
built-in "Personal Server" that is part of the app.  Just what I need --
another application to mess with GNNserver.  Perhaps I will try it on =
another
machine.

Let me know if you get it to work!

Scott
smadans@ihp.com


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Date:         Sun, 19 May 1996 22:43:51 -0400
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From:         Shawn Mathews <us019327@interramp.com>
Subject:      Re: runtime error R6018 - -unexpected heap error
Comments: cc: "doug@tools.gnn.com" <doug@tools.gnn.com>

----------
> From: Doug McKee
> To: Multiple recipients of list GNNDEVELOPER-L
> Subject: Re: runtime error R6018 - -unexpected heap error
> Date: Friday, May 17, 1996 2:03 AM
>
>
> Can you be more specific about when you're getting the error?  It is
> possible to really hang yourself with the Tcl interface (although not
> THAT easy) and fairly easy with the C interface.  What are the last
> entries in the server.log and the access logs?

It always seems to happen during database access. It doesn't seem to
matter if i'm
using Illustra or ODBC.

I am using you system on 2 NT 3.51 Systems. One with 64MB of Ram, the
Other with 32MB
of ram.

[19/May/1996:22:31:35 +0100][96.222] Notice: SQL(gnn_data):  Select
Dealer_id,Dealer_Company from NATNET_DEALERS
[19/May/1996:22:31:55 +0100][96.210] Notice: SQL(gnn_data):  Select
Dealer_id,Dealer_Company from NATNET_DEALERS
[19/May/1996:22:37:31 +0100][96.210] Notice: SQL(gnn_data):  SELECT
A.DEALER_COMPANY as DEALER,
        TO_CHAR(TRUNC(B.CAR_ID)) as CAR_ID,
        B.CAR_YEAR as CAR_YEAR,
        B.CAR_MAKE as CAR_MAKE,
        B.CAR_MODEL as CAR_MODEL,
        TO_CHAR(B.CAR_PRICE,'999,999.00') AS CAR_PRICE,
        B.CAR_TYPE AS CAR_TYPE
   FROM NATNET_DEALERS A, NATNET_CARS B
   WHERE A.DEALER_ID = B.DEALER_ID
 ORDER BY 1

runtime error R6018
- unexpected heap error


Shawn Mathews
us019327@Interramp.com
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Date:         Sat, 18 May 1996 16:48:00 +0200
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From:         Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>
Organization: Kommunikationsnetz Franken e.V. (Nürnberg)
Subject:      SSI

Hi *,

I just installed the GNNServer software and everything seems to work
fine except for server parsed html.
I included both modules *nscgi* and *nsshtml* and the extension for SSI
files is *.shtml*, but every time, I try to view a file with that
extension, my browser (netscape 2 + 3) tells me something like "you have
tried to download a file of type text/x-server-parsed-html" and I have to
tell netscape, what to do with that file.
If I change the extension to *.html*, I get that message for every page
I try to view.

If I try to view exactly the same file off a U*IX host running the NCSA
httpd, everything works as expected.

What did I forget ? Or is it a bug in GNNServer ?

Thanks for your help.

Bye.
Michael.
--
Michael Hirmke, Georg-Strobel-Strasse 81, D-90489 Nuernberg, Germany
e-mail: mh@mike.franken.de       <http://www.franken.de/users/mike/>
voice:  +49 (911) 557999
fax:    +49 (911) 557664
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Date:         Fri, 17 May 1996 18:39:44 -0600
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From:         jyu@NOVATEL.CA
Subject:      Uploading File using HTML Form

I am working on a document database.  I want to use the browser to upload
the
document to the web server.  I use the following HTML to do the upload.

<form enctype="multipart/form-data"  action="/cgi-bin/testConcept.exe"
                method="post">
                        <input name="userfile2" type="file">
                        <input type="submit" value=" Upload file ">

On the server, I wrote a CGI script to save the incoming data to the file.
Everything works OK except the upload file size cannot exceed 1 MB.

If the file being uploaded is bigger than 1 MB, the browser complain that
the "connection is reset by peer."

I am running GNN Server 2.03 on 486DX2/66 with 16 MB RAM running
Windows NT Workstation 3.51 with SP4.

BTW, I use Delphi 2.0 to develop the script.

Any help is appreciate!


Jacky Yu
jyu@novatel.ca
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 09:54:16 PDT
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From:         "Enno W. Brands" <ebrands@pi.net>
Subject:      Illustra applications

I want to set up a Web-sites with photo's, text and data,
and considering to use GNN-server and Illustra to find out
how I can set up applications without programming.

I would like to get started on a stand-alone PC running
Windows NT with Netscape browser, GNN Press, GNN server
and Illustra.

Question 1:

How can I shortcut TCP/IP to make the browsers talk to
http-server on the same PC? Is there a TCP/IP version
that talks to itself? Where can I get it?

Question 2:

Illustra comes with the Web Data Blade. Does anyone have
experience with Illustra's other Data Blades, such as
Image Data Blade, or Text Data Blade?

Question 3:

Do I always need to run my own server to use Illustra,
or is there also an Illustra hosting service?

Thanks
========================================================
From:      Enno W. Brands
Address:   Timorlaan 11, 7314 BV, Apeldoorn, Netherlands
Phone+fax: +31-55-5787633         e-mail: ebrands@pi.net
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 10:42:43 -0400
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From:         "Eric A. Stewart" <Eric_A._Stewart%GSC-CSB@gsc.state.tx.us>
Subject:      Support

Greetings, I am setting up a commercial web site and in evaluating web servers,
the GNNserver has become my first choice, but, I am very concerned about
support. While list like this one are great, I may not be able to wait for a
volunteer to solve a problem. I would much rather pay up front for some level
of support than take my chances. I would really like to see GNN create a
support option for their tools.

On a different note, I would like to see the GNNserver support FastCGI -- see
www.fastcgi.com. The idea of a server API is great but it has a big flaw, a
user written extension can crash the server, not what you want in a production
environment. FastCGI moves your server extension into a separate process
running as a daemon -- or service. Your extension can even run on a second
system across the network.

And last, I believe this would work better as a forum -- are you listening GNN
-- it would be great to be able to access past messages and responses, and
reply to current questions in an interactive environment.
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 10:51:10 -0400
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From:         gnat <gnat@aol.net>
Subject:      Illustra/SQL question.

        In SQL, what is the syntax to either add an integer to a date to
get a new date or compare the result of subtracting two dates against an
integer?
        I have been trying to use "cast" but the only succesful cast I
can get is to cast the date - date to "interval day" but I can not cast
that to integer or the integer to interval day.

Thanks,
David Whittle
Internet Systems Developer
Digital City
(P) (703) 918-2465
(F) (703) 917-1207
(E) gnat@aol.net
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 12:56:48 -0400
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From:         "Jason Y. Chiang" <chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      alter command
In-Reply-To:  <2.2.32.19960516222702.0168029c@mail.gnnhost.com>

I am trying to add some new columns to the database by using alter
command.  Is it possible to add a new column with integer type and default
value such as "integer default 0"?

Thanks for any help.

Jason

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
           Jason Y. Chiang
         CyberSurfer Studios
         22 West 19th Street
         New York, NY 10011
         Tel: 212-807-7071
              212-691-9117
         Fax: 212-691-9203
  www: http://sparky.cs.nyu.edu:12345
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 14:16:13 -0400
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From:         Peter Wu <pkwu@lehman.com>
Subject:      gnnpress and focus

Hi,

GNNPress for solaris grabs focus whenever it is finishes or is in the
middle of displaying a page.  Is it possible to change this behavior?
Since it sometimes takes a while for a page to be loaded I usually go
off and do something else (on the computer) while it loads, but in the
middle of doing that something else GNNpress would grab the focus and
since I still think I'm typing into my application, GNNPress pops up a
dialog box asking me if I'm sure I want to edit this page that it just
loaded or is loading).  It should only grab access if my mouse is in
that window (which is the current configuration for my window
manager).  Can this be fixed in the next beta?  Thanks.

---
Peter Wu - pkwu@lehman.com
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 15:08:20 -0500
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From:         Jay Hannah <jhannah@gsci.com>
Subject:      GNNServer 2.031 problem

Greetings --

I was wondering if anyone might be able to poing me in the right direction.
I'm running GNNServer 2.031 with 3 virtual servers running under seperate IP
addresses. The main (first) virtual server is www2.yankton.com
(205.219.144.52). This server loads fine from in house or remotely. The
other two, however, do not. When I load the DNS entries and IP addresses in
house I don't have a problem, but when someone else tries to load either
virtual server a "Could not Contact host" error appears. Why would it be
working for anyone using my DNS server, but not work for other DNS servers?
I realize that comedyproductions is a new domain, but the IP address should
surely load?!

Try it for yourself:
This one works:  www2.yankton.com (205.219.144.52)
These do not:    www.comedyproductions.com (205.219.144.12)
                 www.8step.com (205.219.144.13)

They are both pingable, though.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Network Systems Coordinator, GSCi

---------------------------------------------------------------
General Service Computers Inc.                       Jay Hannah
Sales: 800/438-9840                        605/665-5123 ext.150
Voice: 605/665-5123                            jhannah@gsci.com
Fax: 605/665-5125                            webmaster@gsci.com
http://www.gsci.com          http://www.gsci.com/employees/jayh
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 21:12:22 GMT
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From:         Ken Fricklas <kenf@bcn.boulder.co.us>
Organization: Boulder Community Net/AND Interactive
Subject:      Re: Urgent Database Help
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.92.960515165302.15853C-100000@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>

On Wed, 15 May 1996 16:54:19 -0400, you wrote:

>Is there a way to return HTML to a certain frame in Netscape by Tcl
>scripts?
>
>Jason Chiang
This implies a slight misunderstanding of the way a browser works.
The server really doesn't 'push' anything; what you do is to load a
frame (via a frameset or target) with a URL; if the server has more to
send, it will keep sending it until the browser gets a </HTML>
directive.  After you've finished loading, the only *traditional* way
to do this is by reloading the frame in question via some action on
the part of the user.
Of course, these
As long as you're using a Netscape browser, you can, however, use
javascript to send document.write's to the window after the fact.
====================================================
Ken Fricklas -- AND Interactive.
Boulder Community Net A&E Coordinator
http://bcn.boulder.co.us/
====================================================
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 21:13:36 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Wherefore art thou assets dir?
Comments: cc: angela@navisoft.com
In-Reply-To:  <v02120d03adba18f10151@[206.42.80.106]> (message from Cass Tyson
              on Sat, 11 May 1996 11:19:09 +0100)

> Still grasping at straws WRT the /ns/assets directory. The
> individual servers' assets dirs seem to be overridden by the main
> one. That is, /navisoft/server/assets is where all virtual servers
> look, rather than /navisoft/server/servers/vserver/assets which is
> where I'd expect them to look.

Alright, this is somewhat confusing given the misleading documentation
and online help, so I'll try and clear it up here.  You can be sure
we'll fix the situation for our 2.1 release!

Each virtual server selects an assets directory at start-up time.
This means you'll need to restart the server if you make any changes
using the Setup Server (as expected), or if you create a virtual
server-specific assets directory.

In order, the virtual server looks in three places for an assets
directory:

1. A specification in the nsd.ini file;  that is, did you specify one
   using the Setup Server for this virtual server.  This directory
   must be an absolute path!  It is not interpreted relative to the
   GNNserver installation directory, and the server does not check to
   see if it exists.  I think this is the root of your particular
   problem.

2. If no specification is found, the server checks for the existence
   of a /servers/<your server>/assets directory under the installation
   directory.  If one exists, it is used.

3. If all else fails (the normal case), the /assets directory under
   the installation directory is used.

I hope this clears things up!

> Question 2 (which would nullify Question 1): How can I change the
> name of the graphic or redirect to a template? I can't find an
> answer to this anywhere. (I like the way you can redirect internal
> errors, URL not found, etc, to specific files, and I've done that
> successfully.)

The short answer is that you can't; nearly all the pages (except
directory listing) that contain the notice.gif are not designed for
your customers to see.  As for the auto-generated database forms and
the full text search forms, you'll have to wait for 2.1 to get to
specify templates for them.

doug

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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 21:43:53 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Domain name...
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.92.960514151932.4477B-100000@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>
              (chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU)

>>>>> "Jason" == Jason Y Chiang <chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU> writes:

    Jason> Hi.  Is there a way to obtain user's domain name?  I
    Jason> couldn't find it in the header.  And I can only have
    Jason> numeric IP address by running ns_conn peeraddr.  Thanks for
    Jason> any help.

    Dave> Not that I know of. I had to create a new Tcl procedure
    Dave> through the C API to take advantage of the
    Dave> Ns_GetHostByAddr() function. You pass the procedure an IP
    Dave> address and it returns the hostname (if it can find it).

Here's the source for a module that you can compile to add the
command; it's built-in in the soon-to-be-beta-released 2.1 version of
GNNserver:

#include "ns.h"

DllExport int Ns_ModuleVersion = 1;
static Tcl_CmdProc Ns_TclGetHostByAddrCmd;

static int
MyInterpInit(Tcl_Interp *interp, void *context)
{
    Tcl_CreateCommand(interp, "ns_hostbyaddr", Ns_TclGetHostByAddrCmd,
                      NULL, NULL);
    return NS_OK;
}

DllExport int
Ns_ModuleInit(char *hServer, char *hModule)
{
    return (Ns_TclInitInterps(hServer, MyInterpInit, NULL));
}


int
Ns_TclGetHostByAddrCmd(ClientData dummy, Tcl_Interp *interp, int argc, char **argv)
{
    Ns_DString      ds;
    char           *host;

    if (argc != 2) {
        Tcl_AppendResult(interp, "wrong # of args: should be \"",
            argv[0], " address\"", NULL);
        return TCL_ERROR;
    }
    Ns_DStringInit(&ds);
    if (Ns_GetHostByAddr(&ds, argv[1])) {
        host = ds.string;
    } else {
        host = argv[1];
    }
    Tcl_SetResult(interp, host, TCL_VOLATILE);
    Ns_DStringFree(&ds);
    return TCL_OK;
}
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 23:23:23 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Password Variables
In-Reply-To:  <1996May13.145041.1140.92599@mx.pacent.com> (dwong@pacent.com)

>>>>> "Douglas" == Wong, Douglas L -Internet <dwong@pacent.com> writes:

    Douglas> Quick questions, what global variables are used when one
    Douglas> enters a Username and Password in the standard
    Douglas> authentication screen! I'm looking to capture this and
    Douglas> verify this with a field within an Illustra table.

You can get the Username and Password with [ns_conn authuser $conn]
and [ns_conn authpassword $conn].

doug

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Email: doug@tools.gnn.com          511 Bath Street
Voice: (800) 529-9166              Santa Barbara, CA
       (805) 882-2350              93101
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 17:20:06 CDT
Reply-To:     Web Development with GNNserver and GNN Hosting Service
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From:         "Tank (SPM)" <Tank@PG.NET>
Subject:      Re: GNNServer 2.031 problem
In-Reply-To:  <9605202008.AA20103@ns.gsci.com>

On Mon, 20 May 96 15:08:20 CDT  , Jay Hannah keyed in:

> Greetings --
>
> I was wondering if anyone might be able to poing me in the right direct=
ion.
> I'm running GNNServer 2.031 with 3 virtual servers running under sepera=
te IP
> addresses. The main (first) virtual server is www2.yankton.com
> (205.219.144.52). This server loads fine from in house or remotely. The
> other two, however, do not. When I load the DNS entries and IP addresse=
s in
> house I don't have a problem, but when someone else tries to load eithe=
r
> virtual server a "Could not Contact host" error appears. Why would it =
be
> working for anyone using my DNS server, but not work for other DNS serv=
ers?
> I realize that comedyproductions is a new domain, but the IP address =
should
> surely load?!
>
> Try it for yourself:
> This one works:  www2.yankton.com (205.219.144.52)
> These do not:    www.comedyproductions.com (205.219.144.12)
>                  www.8step.com (205.219.144.13)
>
> They are both pingable, though.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay Hannah
> Network Systems Coordinator, GSCi

Hi Jay-

Look to make sure you have the proper ARPA mappings in your DNS...  If =
the machine tries to do a reverse lookup based on IP, and gets a differen=
t machine name, it might try to perform subsequent lookups from the new =
machine address (which might map to a different IP)....  Also, make sure =
that the WebServer is using the same DNS that contains your domain inform=
ation (as new domain information might not yet have propogated through =
the net)...

Shots in the fog of this dreary Monday....

Hope it helps.

-S

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Tank (SPM)                          Sean P. McNamara
Tank@PG.NET                   The Planet Group, Inc.
                                                Network Operations Center
Voice: (312) 772-8333
    Fax: (312) 772-9214

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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 15:13:48 -0800
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From:         Alex Khassin <akhassin@am.net>
Subject:      RE[2]: runtime error R6018 - -unexpected heap error
In-Reply-To:  <199605200245.WAA15881@smtp1.interramp.com>

>It always seems to happen during database access. It doesn't seem to
>matter if i'm
>using Illustra or ODBC.
>
>I am using you system on 2 NT 3.51 Systems. One with 64MB of Ram, the
>Other with 32MB
>of ram.

>runtime error R6018
>- unexpected heap error

I have also started getting the same error in these instances (relevant
portion of log):


[15/May/1996:14:35:45 -0700][250.206] Notice: Viewing last 2048 bytes from server log:
C:/NaviSoft/Server/log/server.log

runtime error R6018
- unexpected heap error

[16/May/1996:23:26:41 -0700][472.470] Error: Tcl script failed:
[16/May/1996:23:26:41 -0700][472.470] Notice: 854 bytes of raw data to follow:
couldn't open "C:/NaviSoft/Server/modules/tcl//graphlist.tcl": Permission denied
    while executing
"open $file"
    invoked from within
"set fp [open $file]..."
    invoked from within
"if $exists {
                if ![file readable $file] {
                        return [ns_returnnotice $conn 403 "Read Protected"  "The following script cannot be read
by this server: ..."
    (procedure "GetTcl" line 8)
    invoked from within
"GetTcl $conn 1"
    invoked from within
"if [catch {puts $fp $tcl}] {
                        global errorInfo
                        set info $errorInfo
                        close $fp
                        ns_returnnotice $conn 200 "Tcl Fil ..."
    invoked from within
"if [catch {ns_eval $tcl}] {
                global errorInfo
                set info $errorInfo
                ns_returnnotice $conn 200 "Tcl Update Failed"  "The Tcl script <tt><b>$script</ ..."
    (procedure "PostTcl" line 28)
    invoked from within
"PostTcl nsc1 {}"

runtime error R6018
- unexpected heap error

[19/May/1996:20:33:24 -0700][386.344] Notice: SQL(default:textdb):  insert into stressjump_01 (under18, info, form_id)
values ('yes','yes','SIGNUP')

runtime error R6018
- unexpected heap error




I am running NT 3.51 48 Megs.


------------
Alex Khassin
AM Computers
The Source for Advanced Computing Solutions
http://am.net
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Date:         Mon, 20 May 1996 23:13:19 -0700
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From:         "Gustavo Rueda L." <grueda@olga.latino.net.co>
Organization: Latino Net
Subject:      GNN server Help

I want to know if the GNN server can work with the Microsoft informaion
server without any conflict, and also I want to know if the GNN server
could handle with an entire web site, with more than a few directories,
e.g., the asset directory, home directory.

thanks

Gustavo Rueda
grueda@olga.latino.net.co
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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 09:33:08 -0400
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From:         James Gingerich <jimerich@intrnear.com>
Subject:      Re: GNNServer 2.031 problem

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I'm not sure I understand your problem but I had a similar problem while =
using a different vendor's HTTPD and the following info extracted from =
the online user manual solved my problem:

*****
One gotcha that we've encountered is that mapped network drives exist in =
the context of user accounts. That is, if the server needs access to a =
drive that's on another server, you should use the UNC pathname of the =
drive instead of a mapped drive letter. If G: is mapped to =
\\SERVER\GIG1, then the UNC form of G:\HTTP is \\SERVER\GIG1\HTTP.
*****

jimg

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From:   Jay Hannah[SMTP:jhannah@gsci.com]
Sent:   May 20, 1996 4:08 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list GNNDEVELOPER-L
Subject:        GNNServer 2.031 problem



Greetings --

I was wondering if anyone might be able to poing me in the right =
direction.
I'm running GNNServer 2.031 with 3 virtual servers running under =
seperate IP
addresses. The main (first) virtual server is www2.yankton.com
(205.219.144.52). This server loads fine from in house or remotely. The
other two, however, do not. When I load the DNS entries and IP addresses =
in
house I don't have a problem, but when someone else tries to load either
virtual server a "Could not Contact host" error appears. Why would it be
working for anyone using my DNS server, but not work for other DNS =
servers?
I realize that comedyproductions is a new domain, but the IP address =
should
surely load?!

Try it for yourself:
This one works:  www2.yankton.com (205.219.144.52)
These do not:    www.comedyproductions.com (205.219.144.12)
                 www.8step.com (205.219.144.13)

They are both pingable, though.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Network Systems Coordinator, GSCi

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General Service Computers Inc.                       Jay Hannah
Sales: 800/438-9840                        605/665-5123 ext.150
Voice: 605/665-5123                            jhannah@gsci.com
Fax: 605/665-5125                            webmaster@gsci.com
http://www.gsci.com          http://www.gsci.com/employees/jayh




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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 00:53:05 -0400
Reply-To:     philg@mit.edu
Sender:       Web Development with GNNserver and GNN Hosting Service
              <GNNDEVELOPER-L@SERVICES.WEB.AOL.COM>
From:         Philip Greenspun <philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu>
Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 17 May 1996 to 20 May 1996
Comments: cc: ebrands@pi.net, Eric_A._Stewart%GSC-CSB@gsc.state.tx.us,
          gnat@aol.net, chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU, jhannah@gsci.com
In-Reply-To:  <199605210402.AAA13091@services.web.aol.com> (message from
              Automatic digest processor on Tue, 21 May 1996 00:00:50 -0400)

   Date:    Mon, 20 May 1996 09:54:16 PDT
   From:    "Enno W. Brands" <ebrands@pi.net>
   Subject: Illustra applications

   I want to set up a Web-sites with photo's, text and data,
   and considering to use GNN-server and Illustra to find out
   how I can set up applications without programming.

   I would like to get started on a stand-alone PC running
   Windows NT with Netscape browser, GNN Press, GNN server
   and Illustra.

   Question 1:

   How can I shortcut TCP/IP to make the browsers talk to
   http-server on the same PC? Is there a TCP/IP version
   that talks to itself? Where can I get it?

I'm not sure what it is that you want to do, but I'm pretty sure that
it is not worth doing.

   Question 2:

   Illustra comes with the Web Data Blade. Does anyone have
   experience with Illustra's other Data Blades, such as
   Image Data Blade, or Text Data Blade?

Based on my experience as a user of www.illustra.com, I would say that
the Web Data Blade is not worth using.  The Text Blade does not give
relevant results when you are indexing short docs.  You might want to
read my Illustra tips section in

http://webtools.com/wtr/

   Question 3:

   Do I always need to run my own server to use Illustra,
   or is there also an Illustra hosting service?

I believe that GNN Hosting gives you Illustra as part of their standard
package ($100/month?).  Maintaining any on-line rdbms is a major hassle
so I would not discount the value of this service.

   ------------------------------

   Date:    Mon, 20 May 1996 10:42:43 -0400
   From:    "Eric A. Stewart" <Eric_A._Stewart%GSC-CSB@gsc.state.tx.us>
   Subject: Support

   Greetings, I am setting up a commercial web site and in evaluating web servers,
   the GNNserver has become my first choice, but, I am very concerned about
   support. While list like this one are great, I may not be able to wait for a
   volunteer to solve a problem. I would much rather pay up front for some level
   of support than take my chances. I would really like to see GNN create a
   support option for their tools.

   On a different note, I would like to see the GNNserver support FastCGI -- see
   www.fastcgi.com. The idea of a server API is great but it has a big flaw, a
   user written extension can crash the server, not what you want in a production
   environment. FastCGI moves your server extension into a separate process
   running as a daemon -- or service. Your extension can even run on a second
   system across the network.

I'm not convinced.  I've been writing a lot of broken Tcl code for the
NaviServer API for a year.  I've yet to crash the server.  If you want
high performance, you can buy a multi-processor machine.

   ------------------------------

   Date:    Mon, 20 May 1996 10:51:10 -0400
   From:    gnat <gnat@aol.net>
   Subject: Illustra/SQL question.

           In SQL, what is the syntax to either add an integer to a date to
   get a new date or compare the result of subtracting two dates against an
   integer?
           I have been trying to use "cast" but the only succesful cast I
   can get is to cast the date - date to "interval day" but I can not cast
   that to integer or the integer to interval day.

Illustra has some bugs in their implementation of date/time code.
Nonetheless you will probably win with ...

   current_date + interval '3' day

That's the easy part.  On to your second question.  After doing

   current_date - '1996-01-01'::date

you will have to get lost in a forest of "extract" statements and
usually I find that Illustra screws up by giving you a year-month
interval of 0 and 0.  You might be able to win by creating views and
writing extra Tcl code...  Prepare for pain.

   ------------------------------

   Date:    Mon, 20 May 1996 12:56:48 -0400
   From:    "Jason Y. Chiang" <chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU>
   Subject: alter command

   I am trying to add some new columns to the database by using alter
   command.  Is it possible to add a new column with integer type and default
   value such as "integer default 0"?

I think

   alter table add column foobar integer default 0;

will work.  If it doesn't, you're hosed.

   ------------------------------

   Date:    Mon, 20 May 1996 15:08:20 -0500
   From:    Jay Hannah <jhannah@gsci.com>
   Subject: GNNServer 2.031 problem

   Greetings --

   I was wondering if anyone might be able to poing me in the right direction.
   I'm running GNNServer 2.031 with 3 virtual servers running under seperate IP
   addresses. The main (first) virtual server is www2.yankton.com
   (205.219.144.52). This server loads fine from in house or remotely. The
   other two, however, do not. When I load the DNS entries and IP addresses in
   house I don't have a problem, but when someone else tries to load either
   virtual server a "Could not Contact host" error appears. Why would it be
   working for anyone using my DNS server, but not work for other DNS servers?
   I realize that comedyproductions is a new domain, but the IP address should
   surely load?!

   Try it for yourself:
   This one works:  www2.yankton.com (205.219.144.52)
   These do not:    www.comedyproductions.com (205.219.144.12)
                    www.8step.com (205.219.144.13)

   They are both pingable, though.

   Any ideas?

One word:  "Firewall."  You probably configured your firewall to allow
TELNET to port 80 to the first IP address but not to the other two.

---------

      -- Philip Greenspun

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545 Technology Square, Rm 609, Cambridge, MA 02139, (617) 253-8574
Personal Web URL:  http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/philg/
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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 09:06:24 +0100
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From:         Howard Jones <hjones@vossnet.co.uk>
Subject:      Re: Wherefore art thou assets dir?
In-Reply-To:  <199605210413.VAA02350@navisoft.com>

On Mon, 20 May 1996, Doug McKee wrote:

> > Still grasping at straws WRT the /ns/assets directory. The
> > individual servers' assets dirs seem to be overridden by the main
> > one. That is, /navisoft/server/assets is where all virtual servers
> > look, rather than /navisoft/server/servers/vserver/assets which is
> > where I'd expect them to look.
>
> Alright, this is somewhat confusing given the misleading documentation
> and online help, so I'll try and clear it up here.  You can be sure
> we'll fix the situation for our 2.1 release!
>
> Each virtual server selects an assets directory at start-up time.
> This means you'll need to restart the server if you make any changes
> using the Setup Server (as expected), or if you create a virtual
> server-specific assets directory.
>
How does this work with tcl modules?
I would like one of my virtual servers to carry all the 'common' modules
in the /Server/modules/tcl directories, plus any found in
/Server/servers/vserver/modules/tcl

Is there a sensible way of doing this? It *seems to be either/or...


Howard Jones
Voss Net Plc.
Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
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From:         Alex Finkel <afinkel@pfn.com>
Subject:      Naviserver 2.0 on NT 4.0 Beta 2?

I was wondering if anyone has tried installing Naviserver/GNNserver on
Windows NT Workstation 4.0 Beta 2?

I have the Naviserver 2.0 CD, and when I run Setup to do the install, I get
the following error: "Sorry, Naviserver is not yet supported on Windows 95".

I know NT 4.0 is beta, but I would not have expected setup to think it was
running under 95.  Any ideas?

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From:         Ashish Parikh <ashish@Savantage.Com>
Subject:      Re: Wherefore art thou assets dir?
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Tue, 21 May 1996 09:06:24 BST."
              <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960521090426.8215A-100000@serv4.vossnet.co.uk>

hjones@vossnet.co.uk said:
> How does this work with tcl modules? I would like one of my virtual
> servers to carry all the 'common' modules in the /Server/modules/tcl
> directories, plus any found in /Server/servers/vserver/modules/tcl

> Is there a sensible way of doing this? It *seems to be either/or...
Not in 2.0x. There will be a way in 2.1.

Ashish
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Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 17 May 1996 to 20 May 1996
Comments: To: philg@mit.edu

At 12:53 AM 5/21/96 -0400, Philip Greenspun wrote:
>   Date:    Mon, 20 May 1996 09:54:16 PDT
>   From:    "Enno W. Brands" <ebrands@pi.net>
>   Subject: Illustra applications

>   Question 2:
>
>   Illustra comes with the Web Data Blade. Does anyone have
>   experience with Illustra's other Data Blades, such as
>   Image Data Blade, or Text Data Blade?
>
>Based on my experience as a user of www.illustra.com, I would say that
>the Web Data Blade is not worth using.  The Text Blade does not give
>relevant results when you are indexing short docs.

I disagree with the blanket statement that the Web Data Blade is not
worth using. I haven't used the Text blade, but I like the combination
of GNNserver, Web DataBlade, and 2D DataBlade
(http://huevos.crseo.ucsb.edu:7670).

The current Image Blade spawns an external viewer on the database
server, and that doesn't make sense in the Web context. But I hear
that the next release of the Image blade will be able to be
integrated with Web. I have talked with users who are using the
VIR blade now with Web.

 -jean

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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 12:26:33 -0400
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From:         Jeff Rawlings <rawlings@gnnhost.com>
Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 17 May 1996 to 20 May 1996
Comments: cc: ebrands@pi.net, philg@mit.edu

At 12:53 AM 5/21/96 -0400, Philip Greenspun wrote:

>   Question 3:
>
>   Do I always need to run my own server to use Illustra,
>   or is there also an Illustra hosting service?
>
>I believe that GNN Hosting gives you Illustra as part of their standard
>package ($100/month?).  Maintaining any on-line rdbms is a major hassle
>so I would not discount the value of this service.

Access to an Illustra database is included in Commercial-level service from
GNN Hosting ($199 per month). The Domain level ($99 per month) does not
include Tcl or database access.

Cheers,

Jeff Rawlings                                rawlings@gnnhost.com
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Does GNNserver is able to run as a proxy server ?
Comments: To: olivier.lahaye@cea.fr
Comments: cc: jimbo@navisoft.com
In-Reply-To:  <9605151417.AA12572@suisse.far.cea.fr> (message from Lahaye
              Olivier on Wed, 15 May 1996 16:17:59 +0200)

>>>>> "Lahaye" == Lahaye Olivier <lahaye@suisse.far.cea.fr> writes:

    Lahaye> =09Hi, I'm currently using the CERN httpd 3.0 configured
    Lahaye> tu run as a proxy server, in order to handle a global
    Lahaye> cache.

    Lahaye> GNNserver seems wonderfull, but I'd like to know if it is
    Lahaye> able to run as a proxy server.

    Lahaye> It's realy important for me to handle a global cache
    Lahaye> because: - there are no more caches in home-dirs (good for
    Lahaye> backups) - if a user A connects to a slow site, the user B
    Lahaye> will access this site very fast.  - internet trafic is
    Lahaye> reduced.

Currently, GNNserver will not proxy requests, but it is something we
are working on as its architecture actually makes it a good match for
the foundation of a proxy.

doug

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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: MS FrontPage?
In-Reply-To:  <v02120d00adc12174e6d0@[204.89.144.43]> (message from Doug Lakin
              on Thu, 16 May 1996 11:32:18 -0700)

> Howard, I've used the FrontPage extension with the Netscape
> Communications server on NT, and it uses the POST method. I don't
> really know what is involved in getting it to work with GNNServer. I
> did previously express my wish that GNN work with Microsoft to
> create an extension for GNNServer, but I received no response.

We can't comment on whether we're working with Microsoft to allow
FrontPage to publish to a GNNserver.

doug

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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Connecting to ODBC
In-Reply-To:  <9605151509.AA24113@sun46.armltd> (message from Justin Newnam on
              Wed, 15 May 1996 16:09:42 BST)

>>>>> "Justin" == Justin Newnam <Justin.Newnam@armltd.co.uk> writes:

    Justin> I'm currently having problems in connecting the GNNserver
    Justin> running under WindowsNT to an ODBC database. I'm using
    Justin> GNNserver 2.3 with the upgrade.

    Justin> As a test of the system I created a simple Excel
    Justin> Spreadsheet, and used the ODBC-32 icon under the control
    Justin> panel to reference the file using the XLS driver. This was
    Justin> done for my login (jnewnam), and the database source was
    Justin> called 'test'.

    Justin> When starting the server, the log file gives the
    Justin> following:

    Justin> [] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol: Loading module file:
    Justin> c:/gnn/server/bin/nsshtml.dll [] Notice:
    Justin> Ns_ModuleLoad(ferdinand): Loading module: nsdb.dll []
    Justin> Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol: Loading module file:
    Justin> c:/gnn/server/bin/nsdb.dll [] Notice: Ns_ModuleLoad(odbc):
    Justin> Loading module: nsodbc.dll [] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:
    Justin> Loading module file: c:/gnn/server/bin/nsodbc.dll []
    Justin> Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc): Opening datasource: test []
    Justin> Notice: SQLConnect(test, jnewnam, ) [] Error: ODBC
    Justin> message: SQLSTATE = IM002, Native err = 0, msg =
    Justin> '[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Data source name not
    Justin> found and no default driver specified' [] Warning:
    Justin> Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could not initialize pool: test []
    Justin> Notice: SockStart(ferdinand, nssock): Listening on:
    Justin> http://ferdinand.armltd.co.uk

    Justin> Note, I have removed the time and date info.

I'm actually going out of town for the next few weeks, but when I get
back one of my first orders of business is to setup a FAQ for this
list and get the list contents archived and searchable.

You need to do one of two things:

        1. Define your datasource as a System datasource; if you don't
           have a button for this in your ODBC-32 Administrator,
           you've got an old version.

                OR

        2. Specify that the GNNserver service login as you; do this
           through the services control panel.

doug

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From:         "Jean T. Anderson" <jta@cts.com>
Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 17 May 1996 to 20 May 1996
Comments: To: philg@mit.edu

At 01:07 PM 5/21/96 -0400, Philip Greenspun wrote:
>
>   Date: Tue, 21 May 96 09:12 PDT
>   From: "Jean T. Anderson" <jta@cts.com>
>
>   At 12:53 AM 5/21/96 -0400, Philip Greenspun wrote:
>   >   Date:    Mon, 20 May 1996 09:54:16 PDT
>   >   From:    "Enno W. Brands" <ebrands@pi.net>
>   >   Subject: Illustra applications
>
>   >   Question 2:
>   >
>   >   Illustra comes with the Web Data Blade. Does anyone have
>   >   experience with Illustra's other Data Blades, such as
>   >   Image Data Blade, or Text Data Blade?
>   >
>   >Based on my experience as a user of www.illustra.com, I would say that
>   >the Web Data Blade is not worth using.  The Text Blade does not give
>   >relevant results when you are indexing short docs.
>
>   I disagree with the blanket statement that the Web Data Blade is not
>   worth using. I haven't used the Text blade, but I like the combination
>   of GNNserver, Web DataBlade, and 2D DataBlade
>   (http://huevos.crseo.ucsb.edu:7670).
>
>Well, for me life starts at 100,000 hits/day and a tool that cannot
>reliably handle that kind of traffic isn't useful.  I've never seen a
>reliable Web Blade-backed site.  Maybe you can point us to some?  I'd be
>willing to believe that there are other reasons that www.illustra.com is
>slow and unreliable (maybe they should switch to using NCSA 1.5 like
>www.oracle.com :-)).

my site doesn't get 100,000 hits/day, it doesn't manage the kind of
data you do, and we are short on programmer cycles for implementing
web applications. Our overall requirements are probably very different
from your's.

in other words, different strokes for different folks.

as for what web server www.illustra.com is running, what speed their
connection to the outside world is, and how many hits they get per
day...I have no idea.

But I do know that debugging web performance is more complicated than
just considering the database and web hosts, number of hits, and
application.

I work remotely from San Diego to the web site at Santa Barbara.
Occasionally I encounter bizarre delays that have nothing to do with
the database or the web server. Tracing the route shows that all of a
sudden my packets are being routed through the east coast and back
again several time. A trouble report to the local internet provider
fixes it.

I used to assume that by working remotely I had "worst case" performance
and that if response was good for me, it would be good for everybody.
But the dynamically generated results page that comes up in 5 seconds
for me in San Diego takes 3-4 minutes for one of my researchers in
Arizona. I demo'd the site for a class at UCSD, warning that it was
going to take 5-10 seconds to come up, and it blip came up blindingly
fast. Web performance is not trivial to troubleshoot nor predict.

 -jean
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Subject:      Re: GNNDEVELOPER-L Digest - 17 May 1996 to 20 May 1996
Comments: To: jta@cts.com
In-Reply-To:  <m0uLu3A-0000hFC@crash.cts.com> (jta@cts.com)

   Date: Tue, 21 May 96 09:12 PDT
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   From: "Jean T. Anderson" <jta@cts.com>

   At 12:53 AM 5/21/96 -0400, Philip Greenspun wrote:
   >   Date:    Mon, 20 May 1996 09:54:16 PDT
   >   From:    "Enno W. Brands" <ebrands@pi.net>
   >   Subject: Illustra applications

   >   Question 2:
   >
   >   Illustra comes with the Web Data Blade. Does anyone have
   >   experience with Illustra's other Data Blades, such as
   >   Image Data Blade, or Text Data Blade?
   >
   >Based on my experience as a user of www.illustra.com, I would say that
   >the Web Data Blade is not worth using.  The Text Blade does not give
   >relevant results when you are indexing short docs.

   I disagree with the blanket statement that the Web Data Blade is not
   worth using. I haven't used the Text blade, but I like the combination
   of GNNserver, Web DataBlade, and 2D DataBlade
   (http://huevos.crseo.ucsb.edu:7670).

Well, for me life starts at 100,000 hits/day and a tool that cannot
reliably handle that kind of traffic isn't useful.  I've never seen a
reliable Web Blade-backed site.  Maybe you can point us to some?  I'd be
willing to believe that there are other reasons that www.illustra.com is
slow and unreliable (maybe they should switch to using NCSA 1.5 like
www.oracle.com :-)).


      -- Philip Greenspun

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545 Technology Square, Rm 609, Cambridge, MA 02139, (617) 253-8574
Personal Web URL:  http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/philg/
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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 19:05:14 +0000
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From:         Christof Schmidbauer <jwgi@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de>
Organization: Ferengi Institute for Business Ethics
Subject:      Re: Naviserver 2.0 on NT 4.0 Beta 2?

I am running GNNServer on Win NT 4.0 Beta 2 with no problems so far.
I just ignored the warnings from the install routine and it worked
right out of the box.

Cannot comment on running Illustra under NT 4.0 beta

--Christof

On 21 May 96 at 10:41, Alex Finkel wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has tried installing Naviserver/GNNserver
> on Windows NT Workstation 4.0 Beta 2?
Christof Schmidbauer jwgi@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de
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From:         William Gomez <williamg@cc.comm.mot.com>
Subject:      accessing directories on other WinNT PCs

I've just installed GNN Server 2.03 on a Window NT server.
I'm having difficulties accessing shared directories on
other NT PCs in the network group. I've tried setting
up a virtual server but obviously I'm not doing it correctly.

Can someone please help me or point me to any documentation
that covers this.

Thanks in advance.

BillG

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From:         Marco Coletti <mcoletti@mbox.vol.it>
Subject:      Re: GNNServer 2.031 problem

At 15.08 20/05/96 -0500, Jay Hannah <jhannah@gsci.com> wrote:

>Try it for yourself:
>This one works:  www2.yankton.com (205.219.144.52)
>These do not:    www.comedyproductions.com (205.219.144.12)
>                 www.8step.com (205.219.144.13)

They are working fine from my home, here in Italy.

-= MarCo =-
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From:         gnat <gnat@aol.net>
Subject:      Mapping directories outside the pageroot

        Is it possible to map other directories outside a virtual servers
pageroot the way /NS/Asset is? (i.e. a directory that is not browsable
but can be accessed)
        I intend to store graphics files in the directory just as the
Asset directory does, but I do not want these files showing up in the
browsable directories. The idea is so I can hold many "logo" graphics for
adds my company plans to put up. To do this I am going to have to asign
names to each of these files. These names will be stored in the database
with the record for that company. I don't want to have these possible
thousands of graphics running around the pages directory for someone to
stumble across and browse with GNNPress or a directory listing.

Thanks,
Dave

David Whittle
Internet Systems Developer
Digital City
(P) (703) 918-2465
(F) (703) 917-1207
(E) gnat@aol.net
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Date:         Wed, 22 May 1996 01:28:21 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: alter command
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SUN.3.92.960520125506.785B-100000@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>
              (chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU)

>>>>> "Jason" == Jason Y Chiang <chia7019@SPARKY.CS.NYU.EDU> writes:

    Jason> I am trying to add some new columns to the database by
    Jason> using alter command.  Is it possible to add a new column
    Jason> with integer type and default value such as "integer
    Jason> default 0"?

You can certainly add new columns to your table in Illustra using the
"alter table" command, but you can't specify any default values.
Check out the code in modules/tcl/nsdb/tables.tcl that implements
Extend Table in the GNNserver for an example.

doug

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Date:         Wed, 22 May 1996 01:50:23 -0700
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From:         Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Wherefore art thou assets dir?
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960521090426.8215A-100000@serv4.vossnet.co.uk>
              (message from Howard Jones on Tue, 21 May 1996 09:06:24 +0100)

>>>>> "Howard" == Howard Jones <hjones@vossnet.co.uk> writes:

    Howard> On Mon, 20 May 1996, Doug McKee wrote:

    >> > Still grasping at straws WRT the /ns/assets directory. The >
    >> individual servers' assets dirs seem to be overridden by the
    >> main > one. That is, /navisoft/server/assets is where all
    >> virtual servers > look, rather than
    >> /navisoft/server/servers/vserver/assets which is > where I'd
    >> expect them to look.
    >>
    >> Alright, this is somewhat confusing given the misleading
    >> documentation and online help, so I'll try and clear it up
    >> here.  You can be sure we'll fix the situation for our 2.1
    >> release!
    >>
    >> Each virtual server selects an assets directory at start-up
    >> time.  This means you'll need to restart the server if you make
    >> any changes using the Setup Server (as expected), or if you
    >> create a virtual server-specific assets directory.
    >>
    Howard> How does this work with tcl modules?  I would like one of
    Howard> my virtual servers to carry all the 'common' modules in
    Howard> the /Server/modules/tcl directories, plus any found in
    Howard> /Server/servers/vserver/modules/tcl

    Howard> Is there a sensible way of doing this? It *seems to be
    Howard> either/or...

In 2.0x, you are absolutely right, it is either or.  The good news is
that this is fixed in 2.1, which will be available for beta testing in
the next couple weeks.

doug

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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 17:26:30 -0700
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From:         Doug Lakin <Doug@TeleCommerce.com>
Subject:      Re: MS FrontPage?

At 11:15 AM 5/21/96, Doug McKee wrote:
>We can't comment on whether we're working with Microsoft to allow
>FrontPage to publish to a GNNserver.
>
>doug

Doug,

That's good enough for me... ;^)

Doug Lakin
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 9452 Telephone Road #246
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 805-658-0201 (VOICE)  805-658-0203 (FAX)
          ________________________________________________________
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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 21:08:43 -0700
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From:         Peter Odehnal <petero@wimsey.com>
Organization: BusinessBuilder
Subject:      Re: Naviserver 2.0 on NT 4.0 Beta 2?

Alex Finkel wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anyone has tried installing Naviserver/GNNserver on
> Windows NT Workstation 4.0 Beta 2?
>
Alex,

When did you get NT 4.0 Beta 2?  I'm still waiting for mine.

Regards,

Peter Odehnal
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Date:         Wed, 22 May 1996 15:43:38 +0900
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From:         "Mou(M.D.Chiu)" <mdchu@iii.org.tw>
Organization: Institute for Information Industry
Subject:      Authorization failed!

How can I get or what is the username and the password to the GNNserver
Administration? When I want to do GNNserver Adminitration, I was
requested an username and a password for specific virtual server. I keyed
in the "nsadmin" and the corresponding password, but I got the
authorization failed! Is there somewhere I can set or add users with
different permission for specific virtual server?
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Date:         Wed, 22 May 1996 17:56:51 +0200
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From:         Karlheinz Hagen <kalle@rd.cls.net>
Subject:      Re: Authorization failed!
In-Reply-To:  <31A2B79A.34F1@iiidns.iii.org.tw> from "Mou" at May 22,
              96 03:43:38 pm

>
> How can I get or what is the username and the password to the GNNserver
> Administration? When I want to do GNNserver Adminitration, I was
> requested an username and a password for specific virtual server. I keyed
> in the "nsadmin" and the corresponding password, but I got the
> authorization failed! Is there somewhere I can set or add users with
> different permission for specific virtual server?
>

default is :    nsadmin
passwort : ruffruff
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From:         ACS <hugo@apcom.com>
Subject:      Help with a tcl loop

I'm trying to write a loop sio that I can use the update sql statement.
I have 24 fields but they will not always all be full.
The problem is that I'm trying to build the "update db set key=value,
key2=value2, .... where key24=xxxxx
The problem I'm running into is the last comma gets placed before the where
statement and ofcourse this doesn't work.

Here is my loop:

    set sql "update db set "
        set column ""
        set value ""

#       append sql "= "
#       append sql "'"
#       append sql "[quotename [ns_set value $formdata 0]]"
#       append sql "'"

    set formsize [ns_set size $formdata]
    for {set i 0} {$i < 22} {incr i} {
        if {[ns_set value $formdata $i] != ""} {
            append sql "[ns_set key $formdata $i] = "

        append sql "'[quotename [ns_set value $formdata $i]]' "

        if {$i < $formsize} {
                append sql ", "
                }

       }

   }


     append sql "where key24 = '[ns_set value $formdata 23]';"

    set db ....

Any hints?

Hugo
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From:         Joe Burch <jbb@conan.itc.virginia.edu>
Subject:      ld.so: libpthread.so.1 not found!
Comments: cc: rca2t@virginia.edu, jet3h@virginia.edu, ehc@virginia.edu

Hi - I've just downloaded (both from GNN's http and the ftp site) copies
of gs204sun4.tar for a SunOS 4.3.1_U1 environment and get a tar read error
following an apparently normal extraction sequence up to:

        ...
        x pthreads/COPYRIGHT, 1810 bytes, 4 tape blocks
        tar: read error: unexpected EOF

Since the relevant executables were okay:

        x bin/nsd, 753664 bytes, 1472 tape blocks
        x bin/nsbootstrap, 1438 bytes, 3 tape blocks

as were (apparently) all shared object files in the bin directory, I decided
to crank up the server, unexpected EOF nothwithstanding. But ... running the
standard ./bin/nsbootstrap executable from server home produces the following
error:

        ld.so: libpthread.so.1: not found

The pthreads/lib extraction from the downloaded archive appears to be okay:

        x pthreads/lib/libpthread.so.1.1, 319488 bytes, 624 tape blocks

and, indeed, after the first failure, symbolic links to libpthread.so.1.1
were placed in all the usual locations. But nothing worked. My invocations
steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the presence of libpthread.so.1.1 and
abort server startup.

So far I've been unable to determine where the dynamic loader expects this
sharable object.

Any idea what's going? Help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks ...

Joseph B. Burch                              e-mail:  jbb@virginia.edu
UNIX Systems Group                           phone:   (804) 982-4707
Information Technology and Communication     fax:     (804) 982-4715
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From:         Doug Patton <365_TAO_DigitalBeing@msn.com>
Subject:      Re: Uploading File using HTML Form

We are doing the same thing I are you using the Perl program for
your Upload  from the following address.

http://www.bio.cam.ac.uk/cgi-lib/

if you are I have a fix. If not then I cannot tell how to fix it.


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Sent:   Friday, May 17, 1996 8:39 PM
To:     GNNDEVELOPER-L@SERVICES.WEB.AOL.COM; Multiple recipients of list
GNNDEVELOPER-L
Subject:        Uploading File using HTML Form

I am working on a document database.  I want to use the browser to upload
the
document to the web server.  I use the following HTML to do the upload.

<form enctype="multipart/form-data"  action="/cgi-bin/testConcept.exe"
                method="post">
                        <input name="userfile2" type="file">
                        <input type="submit" value=" Upload file ">

On the server, I wrote a CGI script to save the incoming data to the file.
Everything works OK except the upload file size cannot exceed 1 MB.

If the file being uploaded is bigger than 1 MB, the browser complain that
the "connection is reset by peer."

I am running GNN Server 2.03 on 486DX2/66 with 16 MB RAM running
Windows NT Workstation 3.51 with SP4.

BTW, I use Delphi 2.0 to develop the script.

Any help is appreciate!


Jacky Yu
jyu@novatel.ca
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Date:         Wed, 22 May 1996 14:41:01 -0400
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From:         Peter Wu <pkwu@lehman.com>
Subject:      Help with a tcl loop

What you could do is to print out the first field by itself and then
print out each remaining one with a comma preceding it.  So that
instead of printing.

"1,"
"2,"
"3,"
"4,"

You could print:

"1"
",2"
",3"
",4"

I don't know that much about tcl but I think there is a command which
allows you to join multiple items together with connectors like there
is in perl.  Perhaps someone else will suggest it but the method above
does work if you can't find anything easier.

--

 hugo@apcom.com wrote:

 > I'm trying to write a loop sio that I can use the update sql statement.
 > I have 24 fields but they will not always all be full.
 > The problem is that I'm trying to build the "update db set key=value,
 > key2=value2, .... where key24=xxxxx
 > The problem I'm running into is the last comma gets placed before the where
 > statement and ofcourse this doesn't work.
 >
 > Here is my loop:
 >
 >     set sql "update db set "
 >         set column ""
 >         set value ""
 >
 > #       append sql "= "
 > #       append sql "'"
 > #       append sql "[quotename [ns_set value $formdata 0]]"
 > #       append sql "'"
 >
 >     set formsize [ns_set size $formdata]
 >     for {set i 0} {$i < 22} {incr i} {
 >         if {[ns_set value $formdata $i] != ""} {
 >             append sql "[ns_set key $formdata $i] = "
 >
 >         append sql "'[quotename [ns_set value $formdata $i]]' "
 >
 >         if {$i < $formsize} {
 >                 append sql ", "
 >                 }
 >
 >        }
 >
 >    }
 >
 >
 >      append sql "where key24 = '[ns_set value $formdata 23]';"
 >
 >     set db ....
 >
 > Any hints?
 >
 > Hugo
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From:         Ashish Parikh <ashish@Savantage.Com>
Subject:      [Q] lseek warning in server log file

Hello,

I'm running GNNserver 2.04 on a PC running Linux 1.2.13. When I try to access
files off this server, I get the following error message in my log file:
--
[22/May/1996:15:19:40 +0000][28364.0x8143d90] Warning:
lseek(/usr/local/www/savantage/press-releases.html, -254, SEEK_END) failed:
Unknown error
--

I'm not quite sure what is going on here. When I look at the source, the
TrailerText is after </HTML> even though I explicitly say I would like the
Trailer in the body. Here is the relevant piece from my configuration file:
--
TrailerType=text/html
TrailerText=<HR>Last Modified: :LASTMOD:
TrailerFmt=%B %e, %Y  %l:%M%p
TrailerFindEnd=yes
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Any clues as to what may be going on here?

Thanks,
Ashish
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From:         Ashish Parikh <ashish@Savantage.Com>
Subject:      Re: Help with a tcl loop
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Wed, 22 May 1996 09:55:51 PDT."
              <9605221655.AA28653@huge.apcom.com>
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>     set formsize [ns_set size $formdata]
>     for {set i 0} {$i < 22} {incr i} {
>         if {[ns_set value $formdata $i] != ""} {
>             append sql "[ns_set key $formdata $i] = "
>
>         append sql "'[quotename [ns_set value $formdata $i]]' "
>
>         if {$i < $formsize} {
>                 append sql ", "
>                 }
>        }
>    }
Why is the loop going only till 22 as opposed to $formsize? Or vice-versa?
Anyway, assuming both of them are supposed to be the same there are two
solutions I can think of:
1)
To remove the last ", " you could use
       set sql [string trimright $sql ", "]
2)
Change the if statement to if {$i < $SOMESIZE} where
SOMESIZE is the return value of "expr $formsize - 1". Thus, you will not
append the ", " to begin with.

Ashish
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From:         Alex Finkel <afinkel@pfn.com>
Subject:      Illustra Problem on NT
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Looks like Illustra for NT won't install on NT 4.0 Beta 2...
... so I reverted to NT Server 3.51 and did an install of the latest verion
of Illustra available on the GNN tools website.

The ELM is running fine, but when I try to start up Illustra I get the
following error:

Could not start the Ilustra default service on \\VIVALDI
Error 1067: The process terminated unexpectedly.

This is a Pentium 90 with 16MB ram and 1GB SCSI drive using NTFS.  I created
the miadmin user and set it to log on as a service.

Naviserver 2.0 installed fine and runs successfully.

Anyone encounter this error?

- Alex
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Date:         Thu, 23 May 1996 17:02:42 BST
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From:         Justin Newnam <Justin.Newnam@armltd.co.uk>
Subject:      Re: Connecting to ODBC
Comments: cc: doug@tools.gnn.com

Date:    Tue, 21 May 1996 10:46:58 -0700
From:    Doug McKee <doug@navisoft.com>
Subject: Re: Connecting to ODBC

>>>>> "Justin" == Justin Newnam <Justin.Newnam@armltd.co.uk> writes:

    Justin> I'm currently having problems in connecting the GNNserver
    Justin> running under WindowsNT to an ODBC database. I'm using
    Justin> GNNserver 2.3 with the upgrade.

    Justin> As a test of the system I created a simple Excel
    Justin> Spreadsheet, and used the ODBC-32 icon under the control
    Justin> panel to reference the file using the XLS driver. This was
    Justin> done for my login (jnewnam), and the database source was
    Justin> called 'test'.

    Justin> When starting the server, the log file gives the
    Justin> following:

    Justin> [] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol: Loading module file:
    Justin> c:/gnn/server/bin/nsshtml.dll [] Notice:
    Justin> Ns_ModuleLoad(ferdinand): Loading module: nsdb.dll []
    Justin> Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol: Loading module file:
    Justin> c:/gnn/server/bin/nsdb.dll [] Notice: Ns_ModuleLoad(odbc):
    Justin> Loading module: nsodbc.dll [] Notice: Ns_ModuleSymbol:
    Justin> Loading module file: c:/gnn/server/bin/nsodbc.dll []
    Justin> Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc): Opening datasource: test []
    Justin> Notice: SQLConnect(test, jnewnam, ) [] Error: ODBC
    Justin> message: SQLSTATE = IM002, Native err = 0, msg =
    Justin> '[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Data source name not
    Justin> found and no default driver specified' [] Warning:
    Justin> Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could not initialize pool: test []
    Justin> Notice: SockStart(ferdinand, nssock): Listening on:
    Justin> http://ferdinand.armltd.co.uk

    Justin> Note, I have removed the time and date info.

>I'm actually going out of town for the next few weeks, but when I get
>back one of my first orders of business is to setup a FAQ for this
>list and get the list contents archived and searchable.
>
>You need to do one of two things:
>
>        1. Define your datasource as a System datasource; if you don't
>           have a button for this in your ODBC-32 Administrator,
>           you've got an old version.
>
>                OR
>
>        2. Specify that the GNNserver service login as you; do this
>           through the services control panel.

Doug,

Thanks for the mail. I spotted this problem and made the update but I
still get errors on startup. The only conclusion I come to is that one
of the NT services I need is not running, which ones do I need? or am
I still missing something?

The error log now looks like:

Notice: Ns_DbOpenDb(odbc):  Opening datasource:  test
Notice: SQLConnect(test, nsadmin, )
Error: ODBC message: SQLSTATE = S1000, Native err = 51, msg = '[Microsoft][ODBC Excel Driver]General error Failed to get the expression service'
Error: ODBC message: SQLSTATE = S1000, Native err = 51, msg = '[Microsoft][ODBC Excel Driver]General error The specified resource name can not be found in the image file.'
Warning: Ns_DbInit(nsdb): Could not initialize pool: test

Best Regards,

Justin.
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From:         Jeff Gustafson <jeffgus@packardbell.com>
Subject:      Illustra SQL help: 'update' doesn't work
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        I'm trying to put together a database to use with GNNServer.  I
can't seem to get Illustra to do what I want.  The Update command in
Illustra SQL does seem to be standard.  Here's what works with MS Access:
        update distictrow s_center inner join zipcodes
                on s_center.zip = zipcodes.zip
                set s_center.latitude = zipcodes.latitude,
                s_center.longitude = zipcodes.longitude;

        In nsql it says that 'inner' is not right.  What am I doing wrong?
Or is there another way I should be doing this update?

---
Jeffrey Gustafson
jeffgus@packardbell.com
Technical Resources Group
Packard Bell Electronics, Inc.
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Date:         Thu, 23 May 1996 16:50:53 -0400
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Subject:      Re: wincgi.tcl example & WebBoard ??
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At 01:36 AM 4/13/96 -0500, you wrote:
>At 11:55 AM 4/12/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>From: gaute@alpha1.nipnett.no (Gaute Amundsen)
>>Subject: wincgi.tcl example & WebBoard ??
>>
>>We are very much in need of some kind of BBS on our system,
>>and WebBoard seems to be the best choice by far,
>
>Currently in development (well, testing stages, actually) is ForumUlation
>V1.0, a threaded, multi-user forum program exclusively for use with the GNN
>Server. Its got all kindsa funky features, and interfaces with the Illustra
>database to store and retrieve messages. It'll be out end of April/beginning
>of May, and is absolutely free. :) Once debugged to a point I'm comfortable
>with its release, I'll mail the archive to Doug, and see if he wants to post
>it to the GNN Developer's Corner.

krish,

I just wanted to ask you how this is coming. I'd love to take a look at
it, if you're willing!

Cheers,

--Jeff Rawlings
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From:         Liankui Sun <sun@mech02.me.sc.edu>
Subject:      Help needed on Configure Multiple IP Address  sun and Lynux
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Hi,

I am a newbie for sun and lynux. I have the problem in configure
Multiple IP on Sun and Lynux. I have never

After I use

ifconfig le0:4 IP up

on sun Sparc5 running Solaris2.5

The IP is alive. but when using this IP as a new WWW host, I configured a
virtual server through this new IP and Port 80, i. e. http://New IP:80/
under GNNserver2.03,  My browser always return me the Home page with my primary
IP address:80. That means the new IP has the same effect as OLD one.

On Lynux:

When I try to

insmod dummy.o


There is ERROR

no kernel_version

What's wrong with it?  Help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks ...



Liankui Sun                                  e-mail:  sun@mech02.me.sc.edu
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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 14:00:49 -0600
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From:         Marco Chacon <mchacon@fractal.icr.co.cr>
Organization: Internet de Costa Rica
Subject:      Known bugs?
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I had 2 problems with de GNNPress,
1) Everytime, when I quit, it reports an error.
2) I had a Block anchor, so I wanted it to be only at the heading of
that block; marked the text that will not be part of the anchor, set the
properties, and set the anchor to none... and the system stopped
responding.

Known bugs??

I use the beta running on a Cx586 32RAM, under Win95.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Marco Chacón
Internet de Costa Rica
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Us, and them, and after
all, we're only ordinary
man." - Pink Floyd-
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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 15:26:16 -0700
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From:         "Scott R. Madans" <smadans@ihp.com>
Organization: Instant Homepage
Subject:      mailto service
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Hi All,

Another nubie question...  (GNNserver 2.031, Pentium, NT3.51)

I have created a form in GNNp that works fine.  But, I am getting too many
duplicate messages from people with Netscape clients because they never see a
confirmation that their mail was sent.

While using GNNpress, after submitting a form using 'mailto:' the user gets
notification that the mail was sent.  It appears that a Netscape (Gold)
client does not get the same response.  I am sure it is because of my nubie
HTML -- not the server, or Netscape.

I tried linking the button to a page.  The link is displayed on the status
line at the bottom when the cursor passes over the button while in GNNp, but
is not served.  The link does not show up at all in Netscape.

Thanks for the help!!!

Signed...  Scott "Too Many Mail Dupes" Madans.
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Date:         Sat, 25 May 1996 20:08:14 +0000
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From:         Don Bellamy <don@webcenter.net>
Organization: WebCenter Internet Services, Inc.
Subject:      CGI-BIN

Good Evening,

I am still new to GNNServer (Only about 1 month), so I have a few
questions that I feel can be answered very easily, but I cannot seem
to locate the answers.

I am trying to install several cgi scripts that require html files
and images to be in the same directory as the scripts.  For some
reason I cannot get these scripts to work on GNNServer, but I had no
problems with a NSCA server?

My questions are:

1)  How do I configure GNNServer to allow scripts as well as html
files and images to run in the same directory?

2)  Should ownership of all these files/directories be changed to
nsadmin?  and what about group ownership?

3)  Is there anything special to getting subdirectories of a
cgi-bin (ex /cgi-bin/subdir/script.cgi) to be able to run cgi scripts?  I am having
a problem getting any scripts placed in a subdirectory to work,  I keep getting
an internal error message, and the log file states permission denied,
but I know all permissions are set correct!

If you would like to see an example of a script I am trying to
implement - check out http://www.lansing.net/cgi-bin/main.cgi, you
will notice that all images are broken even though they do exist in
the correct directories that the script calls for?

Also, I am a GNN Hosting customer with a dedicated machine running
UNIX.  I thought that with GNNServer, setting up cgi scripts would be
a breeze, but I cannot seem to get much of anything to run, there must
be some little thing I am overlooking (I hope).

Thanks for any help.


\  \  /\  /  /EBCENTER INTERNET SERVICES
 \  \/  \/  / Don Bellamy, don@webcenter.net
  \___/\___/  http://www.webcenter.net
    Tel 517/675-7779    Fax 517/346-7582
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Date:         Mon, 27 May 1996 15:50:25 +0100
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From:         Howard Jones <hjones@vossnet.co.uk>
Subject:      ns_auth and ns_perm docs?
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Are the ns_auth and ns_perm functions documented anywhere? I need to use them
for a site to bulk-add users and to let the software be self-installing
(OK - this is just something that'd be nice, not vital).

Is it safe to be using these functions? I've figured out what I need for
ns_user at least, but not ns_perm yet.

Thanks for any info,

Howard.

--
Howard Jones
Voss Net Plc.
Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
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Date:         Sun, 26 May 1996 03:16:09 +0000
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From:         Don Bellamy <don@webcenter.net>
Organization: WebCenter Internet Services, Inc.
Subject:      Uploading a comma delimited text file

Good Morning,

I know that this was just answered, but I must have erased the
message.  I would like to import a comma delimited text file into the
illlustra database on GNNServer.  I know that someone mentioned a tcl
script somewhere.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, and have a great day!

\  \  /\  /  /EBCENTER INTERNET SERVICES
 \  \/  \/  / Don Bellamy, don@webcenter.net
  \___/\___/  http://www.webcenter.net
    Tel 517/675-7779    Fax 517/346-7582
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Date:         Mon, 27 May 1996 10:13:57 +0400
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From:         WEB daemon <gandalf@rivendell.rosmail.com>
Subject:      Re: Help needed on Configure Multiple IP Address sun and Lynux
In-Reply-To:  <1.5.4.32.19800101211236.006d59c0@mech02.me.sc.edu>
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> Hi,
        Hi.
> insmod dummy.o
        You may do some steps for create dummy IP's for Linux:
1) Check you kernel version. I reccomend to give 1.2.13 powerful and stable.
2) Rebuild kernel (refer /usr/src/linux/README for details) and add kernel
version into modules (in 'make config' step)
3) Rebuild modules
4) Install and test new kernel and modules.
5) If you plan more than one IP address use this command.
 insmod -o dummy0 dummy.o
 insmod -o dummy1 dummy.o
 and go go go ...
6) Configure 'ifconfig' and 'arp' for new pseudo devices
7) Vouala.
> Liankui Sun                                  e-mail:  sun@mech02.me.sc.edu
        Best wishes.
                Vladimir
>
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Date:         Mon, 27 May 1996 14:37:19 +0400
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From:         WEB daemon <gandalf@rivendell.rosmail.com>
Subject:      How to extract username for CGI script using GNNServer
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        How to extract username for using in CGI script.
                Best wishes.

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Date:         Tue, 28 May 1996 08:34:44 +0100
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From:         Howard Jones <hjones@vossnet.co.uk>
Subject:      Order of module initialization?
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Does anyone know which order the GNNServer modules are loaded in? I seem to
be having a problem where a function I want to run once at startup can't
access database pools (I want to preload a TCL array with a list stored
in an ODBC database) - any pointers?

Howard Jones
Voss Net Plc.
Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
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Date:         Tue, 28 May 1996 09:46:31 -0700
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From:         Jim Davidson <jimbo@navisoft.com>
Subject:      Re: Order of module initialization?
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At 08:34 AM 5/28/96 +0100, Howard Jones wrote:
>Does anyone know which order the GNNServer modules are loaded in? I seem to
>be having a problem where a function I want to run once at startup can't
>access database pools (I want to preload a TCL array with a list stored
>in an ODBC database) - any pointers?

Hello,

C modules are loaded for a virtual server in the order in which they appear
in the nsd.ini file.  This means, for example, nscgi needs to be loaded
before nsshtml because shtml depends on cgi.

As for Tcl, the server initializes top level Tcl scripts *before* the C
modules are loaded which is probably not what you want.  It sounds like your
script is accessing nsdb commands before nsdb is loaded.  In your case you
should be able to get away with moving your script to the nsdb sub
directory.  The scripts in this directory aren't initialized until after
nsdb is loaded.

One more thing to consider:  Your initialization code will run once for each
Tcl interpreter configured for the virtual server.  This is normally the
right thing to do but you should consider this affect when accessing
resouces other than global variables such as external files or database tables.


By the way, GNNserver 2.1 provides more control over Tcl script
initialization at startup.  What you can do is load the pseudo-module "Tcl"
which won't load any C module but will initialize the cooresponding Tcl
script directory.  For example, if your nsd.ini looked like this:

[ns/server/myserver/modules]
sock=nssock.so
log=nslog.so
mytcl=Tcl

the server would source all scripts in the modules/tcl/mytcl/ directory
after loading the socket and logging modules.  Also, the Tcl interpreters
are linked together so your script will be sourced just once and all changes
will immediately appears in the other interpreters in the virtual server.

GNNserver 2.1 is available for beta testing.  For info, open:

        http://www.tools.gnn.com/server/2.1beta.html


Cheers, -Jim
_________________________________________________
 Jim Davidson            | jimbo@navisoft.com
 America Online Inc.     | Voice: (805) 882-2350
 511 Bath Street         | Fax:   (805) 899-4316
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Date:         Tue, 28 May 1996 12:11:27 -0400
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From:         Michael Kmiec <mike@pfn.com>
Subject:      Re: Order of module initialization?
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The modules load in the order in which they are listed in the nsd.ini file.

For some reason, whenever we've tried to load a module that references calls
in nsdb.so, the web page interface lists the loading order as nsdb first,
then our code. In reality, the nsd.ini sometimes lists them in the reverse.
Thus, our .so loads up, and upon finding no nsdb, the virtual server doesn't
start.

The solution (and a thoroughly wonky workaround, admittedly) is to either
manually edit the nsd.ini file so it loads the db stuff first, or--by way of
web page--remove the reference to nsdb.so (or .dll, depending), then re-add
it, followed by our code. Why it works this way, I can't say, but it was a
bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth on my part before I realized that it would.

At 08:34 AM 5/28/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Does anyone know which order the GNNServer modules are loaded in? I seem to
>be having a problem where a function I want to run once at startup can't
>access database pools (I want to preload a TCL array with a list stored
>in an ODBC database) - any pointers?
>
>Howard Jones
>Voss Net Plc.
>Internet: hjones@vossnet.co.uk
>http://www.vossnet.co.uk/people/Howard/index.html
>
>
------------------------------------------------------
Michael Kmiec                         PFN Incorporated
                                  26 Landsdowne Street
                                   Cambridge, MA 02139
mike@pfn.com                              617.494.9980
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Date:         Tue, 28 May 1996 09:29:58 -0700
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From:         John Mantegna <jpm@navisoft.com>
Subject:      GNNserver 2.1 beta now available
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The first beta version of GNNserver 2.1 is now available for download on
Sun Solaris 2.4/2.5 and SGI Irix 5.3/6.2 platforms.
See http://www.tools.gnn.com/server/2.1beta.html for details.

Since this is the first beta, please report bugs to gsbeta@tools.gnn.com
instead of this list.

Thanks,
John
______________________________________________
John Mantegna          AOL Santa Barbara
Vox:805-882-2350       511 Bath St.
Fax:805-882-4316       Santa Barbara, CA 93101
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Date:         Tue, 28 May 1996 12:22:16 -0700
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Subject:      GNNserver 2.1 beta now available!
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The GNNserver team is pleased to announce the first beta release of
GNNserver 2.1.  Version 2.1 provides several new enhancements to increase
performance and scalability and make building powerful, interactive Web
sites even easier.  An abbreviated list of new features is attached below.

This first beta release of GNNserver 2.1 is available for the Sparc Solaris
and Irix platforms.  The next beta release, scheduled for June 7, will
support additional platforms including Intel Windows NT.

All registered GNNserver users are welcome to test beta version 2.1.  For
late breaking news, releases notes, and download and installation
instructions open:

        http://www.tools.gnn.com/server/2.1beta.html

To report problems or request a platform other than Solaris, Irix, or NT for
testing, please send email to:

        gsbeta@tools.gnn.com

The beta program is critical in our efforts to make GNNserver the most
powerful and reliable Web server possible.  We greatly appreciate the time
and effort you spend testing and hope you find version 2.1 as exciting as we do.


Enjoy!
The GNNserver Team



* Note:  The list below includes some features which won't be enabled and/or
documented until the second beta release.  See the late-breaking news and
release notes on the tools.gnn.com Web site for complete information.


New Features and Enhancements of GNNserver 2.1:

-  The ad-hoc database query system has been enhanced to allow far greater
customizations of the automatically generated HTML forms and search results.
It also supports several powerful new features such as:

    o Custom HTML templates for transaction and full text search forms
    o The ability to automatically send email when tables are updated
    o A form for executing SQL directly
    o A wizard to transfer table schema between servers
    o A wizard to upload and download data in SQL and CSV format
    o The ability to embed SQL in Tcl scripts within server-side include pages


-  A new "external" database driver which moves vendor client libraries out
of the driver module and into a separate "proxy daemon" process.  This
architecture allows GNNserver to simultaneously access multiple database
connections even when the vendor libraries are not "thread-safe" (e.g.,
Sybase and Oracle).  Included with the external database driver are Illustra
and Sybase daemons and an Oracle daemon is in development.


-  The Tcl API has been enhanced with new commands to access powerful
GNNserver features previously only accessible through the C API including:

        o Thread creation and synchronization
        o TCP/IP socket programming
        o Scheduled and trace procedure scripts

These new commands can be combined in powerful ways, for example, as the
basis of a flexible custom logging system.


- The core Tcl architecture has also been enhanced so that all global
variables and open files are immediately shared between interpreters of a
virtual server.  This will greatly simplify scripts which maintain state
between connections.  In addition, each connection thread maintains its own
interpreter instead of potentially waiting for an interpreter to become
available.


- Enhancements to the core GNNserver architecture which enable the server to
scale better in the case of 100's of virtual servers and allow remote
restart and faster, more secure, startup.


- Several small enhancements including:

        o Ability to roll the logs on a nightly basis or in response to SIGHUP
        o Administrative Tcl commands to monitor active connections
        o A network logging module to multiplex entries from multiple servers
        o Increased performance of the SSL module using BSafe3
        o Support for browser Connection: Keep-Alive
        o Demand database initialization for faster startup
        o Ability to register custom server-side include commands
        o Tcl initialization from both private and shared directories
        o and much more...
_________________________________________________
 Jim Davidson               | jimbo@navisoft.com
 GNNserver Project Manager  |
 America Online Inc.        |
 511 Bath Street            | Voice: (800) 529-9166
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Date:         Tue, 28 May 1996 18:30:37 +0200
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From:         Kristian Jorg <krjg@befor.se>
Subject:      Internationalized date formats in Illustra & Forms

Hi All,

It seems that GNNserver & Illustra has this non-internationalized decease
that most American software has. But prove me wrong or tell me how to
adjust the automatic search/update/entry forms to have a European (swedish)
date & time format.

I looked in the forms.tcl code to get some hints but that is cluttered with
very-hard-to adjust stuff like:

---------------------
    set output "<INPUT NAME=ColValue.[ns_urlencode $colname].time TYPE=text SIZE=9>\
                <SELECT NAME=ColValue.[ns_urlencode $colname].ampm>
<OPTION> AM
<OPTION> PM
</SELECT>
---------------------

So how get a 24-hour time format? Seems like the am/pm stuff is tightly
integrated  with illustra's date and time datatype.

I guess I can write some wrappers around this, but that's no fun.
Is there some documentation on Illustra and it's datatypes etc? Hard to find.

Nuff said, any inputs on this? Anything would be appreciated!

Kristian Joerg
Befor System Integration AB, Sweden